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re: As a Trump supporter, I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
You’re an *useful* idiot.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
Do you believe that the DOJ/FBI initiated a Hillary-paid for fraudulent evidence investigation and wiretap ending in an Impeachment to take Trump out? If you say yes, and admit they did that, why would their Dem base underlings in Urban precinct s not stuff the ballot boxes full welll knowing they were untouchable? It was a massive steal and the whole World knows it. Not uncommon in the World; just a first being so brazen in a. Action that has long stood tall since our extraordinary Founding. I don’t believe you. Trump supporters are no longer this naive. Too much out there now. The won’t show the whole thing just like they won’t show the Affidavit used to raid Trump’s home. No matter. We’re going down. “Fourth Turning” scenario.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
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but I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim,
It's certainly possible. But if there was fraud, I myself always leaned towards something that was not nationwide coordinated. Pockets of people around the country brainwashed into thinking he was Hitler, and just enough of various groups took initiative to cheat.
At the very least, the constant MSM lies was a form of fraud that pulled strings.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:53 pm to Northwestern tiger
You do realize that the swing states had voter laws changed without the laws being changed using the right branch to vote on said changes. The states SOS changed them using executive power that they don’t have. Those votes are fraudulent dumbass.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:53 pm to Vacherie Saint
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He lost virtually all the Bellwether counties.
yup and lost iowa, florida and ohio. so trump for first time ever won all those and gained more votes than last election and still lost? yeah right. compete and utter BS. it had never happened before in history. idiots do not realize all the precedents that were broken due to bidens cheating. it was statistically IMPOSSIBLE. voter turnouts are normally 67%. blue counties had 90% and 100%. GTFO.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:54 pm to Fat Bastard
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they only had to cheat in 5 states in maybe 6 counties total to steal it
Nevada, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona would have put Trump over 270. Less than 90K votes in an election where over 150MM people "voted".
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:54 pm to shoelessjoe
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You do realize that the swing states had voter laws changed without the laws being changed using the right branch to vote on said changes. The states SOS changed them using executive power that they don’t have. Those votes are fraudulent dumbass.
If the GOP Leadership gave a damn, they would be running ads 24/7 repeating this UNDENIABLE truth.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:56 pm to Septiger
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Yeah ok and Biden overcame 800,000 votes overnight in Pennsylvania.
and what was it? 400k in michigan or whiskey?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:58 pm to Northwestern tiger
This went about like I expected for you
Groupthink is prevalent on our side too. Nobody brings up the Kraken or servers in Europe anymore. But you're expected to buy the narrative 100% or you're disloyal to the leader.
Anyway, I think the narrative is attractive in part because it's easier to grapple with than the more difficult and incurable reality - which is that tens of millions of your friends, neighbors and family voted for Biden and voted for pro-abortion policies, taking money away from your family, undermining your parental authority, intentionally damaging children with hateful narratives, etc. etc. etc.
We all want to put the spotlight on the elites and the swamp, and rightfully so to some extent, but they got their via the applause of your friends and neighbors. People don't really have an answer for how to go about resolving that issue.
Groupthink is prevalent on our side too. Nobody brings up the Kraken or servers in Europe anymore. But you're expected to buy the narrative 100% or you're disloyal to the leader.
Anyway, I think the narrative is attractive in part because it's easier to grapple with than the more difficult and incurable reality - which is that tens of millions of your friends, neighbors and family voted for Biden and voted for pro-abortion policies, taking money away from your family, undermining your parental authority, intentionally damaging children with hateful narratives, etc. etc. etc.
We all want to put the spotlight on the elites and the swamp, and rightfully so to some extent, but they got their via the applause of your friends and neighbors. People don't really have an answer for how to go about resolving that issue.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:58 pm to Northwestern tiger
I mean, there are a shocking amount of absolute imbeciles when you look around in America, so maybe Biden did get a lot of votes, but when you have places stopping the vote count in the middle of the night (the most important thing in the world at that moment basically) when backwards-arse places like Louisiana manage to get the votes counted, then what are we supposed to believe when the vote count drastically changes after the stoppage?
And has anything been changed to ensure that no vote counts will be stopped because meemaw and peepaw counting the votes want to go to bed? There is NO EXCUSE for stopping any vote counts until all votes are counted. This ain't a grade school student council election. It's the election of the leader of the free world.
And has anything been changed to ensure that no vote counts will be stopped because meemaw and peepaw counting the votes want to go to bed? There is NO EXCUSE for stopping any vote counts until all votes are counted. This ain't a grade school student council election. It's the election of the leader of the free world.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 12:59 pm to memphisplaya
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It disenfranchises the vote.
I hate when people say this. The dims stealing an election disenfranchised millions of people.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:00 pm to Northwestern tiger
I think there are more Trump supporters who feel the same, than what is believed. I agree with you though. There’s no clear evidence of cheating. I think the mail in ballots were Democrats taking advantage of a situation. A lot of those Democratic voters who voted by mail, were too lazy to vote any other way, and would have just sat at home if there were no mail in ballots. That’s the difference to me.
I think Trump people complaining about election fraud, are no different than the Libs who claimed Trump cheated to win in 2016. I will say though, the Democrats started this, and they shouldn’t have any problem with Trump supporters complaining about election fraud in 2020.
I think Trump people complaining about election fraud, are no different than the Libs who claimed Trump cheated to win in 2016. I will say though, the Democrats started this, and they shouldn’t have any problem with Trump supporters complaining about election fraud in 2020.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:01 pm to sta4ever
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There’s no clear evidence of cheating.
You aren’t paying attention.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:01 pm to BayouBlitz
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Did they ever name names?
No. They failed to show anything substantial at all. It's been reviewed and torn apart for a while now.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:02 pm to NOLAVOL16
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SOMEONE would have opened their mouth and bragged about it.
I guess you missed the part where Brandon admitted that the Dims had assembled the most extensive voter fraud network in this country's history?
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:02 pm to sta4ever
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I think there are more Trump supporters who feel the same, than what is believed. I agree with you though. There’s no clear evidence of cheating. I think the mail in ballots were Democrats taking advantage of a situation. A lot of those Democratic voters who voted by mail, were too lazy to vote any other way, and would have just sat at home if there were no mail in ballots. That’s the difference to me.
I would argue that the ability of our institutions to - likely without any formalized agreement or understanding - work in concert to exploit a "pandemic" to manipulate millions of people to ensure a Biden win is far more frightening than any of the popular theories on here.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:03 pm to Northwestern tiger
Election denial for the folks on this board is like Linus and his security blanket. It keeps you warm and safe from the curb stomping that Biden gave the former grifter-in- chief.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:04 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
The bat signal must have gone out at DU.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:06 pm to Northwestern tiger
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I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim
Okay. That is your opinion, but you should at least understand why others do feel it was stolen.
Do you acknowledge that all of the "sketchy" Covid-19 election policy changes (which the Democrats want to make permanent) made it easier to cheat, and over time, more and more people WILL cheat? If this election wasn't stolen, then it is only a mater of time before one IS stolen.
Do you believe that we 100% need to make sure our elections are secure, going forward or a substantial part of our population will lose all faith in the legitimacy of our elections?
All of the shenanigans going on right now that make it clear that the FBI, DOJ, CIA, etc, are politicized and the actions they have taken - ignoring Hunter's laptop, imprisoning 1/6 folks in solitary confinement for walking around the Capitol bldng, raiding an ex-President's house, taking a pass on prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein's clients, etc. This just shows us how far they are willing to go to put Democrats in power. What makes you think they wouldn't throw an election?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:07 pm to Northwestern tiger
That’s a much more respectable position than most conservatives here. I don’t believe the fraud claims and I wouldn’t vote for Trump in an election, but I can find commonality with somebody that roots their vote in policy.
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