- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: As a Trump supporter, I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:07 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:07 pm to Northwestern tiger
You’ll get a lot of downvotes but your take is a common one. Some folks think it was illegally stolen from Trump. Others think it was unethically but legally rigged against Trump. It’s crazy that we can’t unite as one team and make this distinction a big deal.
0
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:09 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
but I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim, which is responsible for Biden win.
Where were you when 5 or 6 swing states shut down counting for the first time in 240+ years and kicked out poll watchers, boarded up windows, had water main breaks, and then started back counting until the guy previously losing started winning by improbable margins?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:18 pm to Zach
quote:
I believe it strictly from math and probability. The swing state's wild historical numerical differences (with zero wild differences from the other 40 states) is like believing you can win the lottery and get struck by lightening on your way to the bank.
This was 100% my initial perspective - the math does not work for the election. There were so many statistical anomalies that the only conclusion is fraud.
Compare turnouts and votes to all the previous elections. Nothing is remotely close. It’s clearly fraudulent in several states.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:21 pm to Northwestern tiger
Probably could've just said "I'm a dumbass" and skipped the rest of your post
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:22 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
the massive voter fraud claim
Please explain why a person with no access to electronic voter data would take two individuals access badges and illegally access the server room and then proceed to delete all voter data that is required to be kept AND was ordered to be turned over via a court? Why would someone in Arizona do that if everything was on the up and up?
And to add, not any person would know how to delete those records and would also need Admin access to do so. So he was also given the Admin passwords.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:32 pm to Northwestern tiger
I've shortened my election conversations considerably by employing the following strategy:
I ask, "Do you believe all votes should count as Democrats do? That is doesn't matter how it arrived to be counted only that it is counted. Or do you believe only legal votes should be counted? Votes that meet the standards set by their duly elected representatives in their state legislatures."
If you believe all votes count, then its reasonable to say Biden "won".
If you believe in the rule of law and that only legally cast ballots count then welcome to the "election denier" club.
Trump was reelected in Nov 2020 and you agree Biden is illegitimate.
I ask, "Do you believe all votes should count as Democrats do? That is doesn't matter how it arrived to be counted only that it is counted. Or do you believe only legal votes should be counted? Votes that meet the standards set by their duly elected representatives in their state legislatures."
If you believe all votes count, then its reasonable to say Biden "won".
If you believe in the rule of law and that only legally cast ballots count then welcome to the "election denier" club.
Trump was reelected in Nov 2020 and you agree Biden is illegitimate.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:35 pm to Northwestern tiger
In your heart of hearts do you believe that Biden got 10 million more voters than Obama did?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:39 pm to Northwestern tiger
That's because you are a simpleton
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:46 pm to NOLAVOL16
quote:
SOMEONE would have opened their mouth and bragged about it.
There were only a handful of counties involved. This amounted to fraud on a local level. SOS Raffensperger made it easy to do in Georgia, making sure the State used Dominion. Bonus for dems was his illegal agreement with Stacey Abrams that she demanded. This is all known, yet nothing done about it after the fact.
The main players had a mission. They are proud operatives and would never brag, obviously.
But many low-level workers came forward and told what was going on with the different ballot tactics that were witnessed.
There were also issues with chain of custody...'oops' was all that was said about that particular law breaking.
Dominion failed them - so on to Plan B for ballots.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:47 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim
Junk mail voting was the fraud
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:54 pm to Northwestern tiger
I'm a Trump supporter and I do believe there was voter fraud, both in actual voting and counting, and also what I consider external fraud such as Zuckerberg's buying of voting apparatuses in swing states as well as the Podhorzer shadow campaign. As a practical matter, though, in a sense it was a perfect crime made possible by Covid and Covid changes to voting laws, and there is not much the GOP could have done about it at the time besides cheat like crazy ourselves, which we did not do. We got caught flat footed and were left with nothing but long-shot legal challenges after the fact. We brought a knife to a gunfight, as the old saying goes.
The things that bothered me were the idiots who went inside of the Capitol building on J6 (not Trump's fault) and the negative intra party rhetoric that cost the GOP the two GA senate seats. Those two things set us back so far as as party. If we had just one of those GA seats, there would be no IRA and no green energy slush fund, 87k IRS agents with guns auditing middle American, etc. But here we are.
The things that bothered me were the idiots who went inside of the Capitol building on J6 (not Trump's fault) and the negative intra party rhetoric that cost the GOP the two GA senate seats. Those two things set us back so far as as party. If we had just one of those GA seats, there would be no IRA and no green energy slush fund, 87k IRS agents with guns auditing middle American, etc. But here we are.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:54 pm to Northwestern tiger
Yet Desantis just said that there was voter fraud in Florida a state Trump won. You're a fricking moron
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:57 pm to Northwestern tiger
Op needs to grow a brain...
When in the past did all battleground states stop counting at the same time and in Ga. poll workers take out ballots under a table and start counting with opposing inspectors not present?
When in the past did all battleground states stop counting at the same time and in Ga. poll workers take out ballots under a table and start counting with opposing inspectors not present?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:59 pm to Northwestern tiger
Support these nuts!
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:05 pm to DaphneTigah
quote:
2000 mules
nope.
attorney General barr said he reviewed and there's nothing there.
he used vulgar language about each and all such claims. its b.s. says Barr.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:07 pm to Zach
quote:
I believe it strictly from math and probability. The swing state's wild historical numerical differences (with zero wild differences from the other 40 states) is like believing you can win the lottery and get struck by lightening on your way to the bank.
Biggest statistical anomalies that prove fraud was nearly certain:
-100% voting participation in districts
-neighboring precincts with mostly identical demographics, where one wildly flipped from 2016 and the other didn't change much at all
- all the down-ballots that were empty for Biden only, and on a larger scale, all the GOP wins in precincts that went for Biden
- the (I forgot the name) where the distribution of numbers if you just made them up is more uniform (e.g. there are similar frequencies of numbers that begin with 1 and with 9) whe 1's should be much more prevalent in real counts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:08 pm to CelticDog
quote:
attorney General barr said he reviewed and there's nothing there.
he used vulgar language about each and all such claims. its b.s. says Barr.
One of the dumbest things you can do is hear a politician say something and think that settles it.
I know you're new to the planet, but on Earth, politicians lie. They're famous for it, actually. Lots of jokes about it.
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:12 pm to sta4ever
quote:
believed. I agree with you though. There’s no clear evidence of cheating
This is simply not true but I’ll play along…what evidence cheating is clear to you? Would it take video tape of some election official running observers out to count thousands of stashed away votes multiple times on video tape that they were unaware of, filming them cheat? A glorified Nanny Cam for example? Oh wait…we have that already!
Your overlooking of the fraud is like an embodiment of that dumbass song…”It Wasn’t Me”…yep don’t believe your lying eyes.
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:13 pm to Northwestern tiger
That's fine. So you believe that Biden, who didn't campaign and had no real momentum, received more votes in US history, including Obama?
Posted on 8/18/22 at 2:14 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
I don’t believe in the massive voter fraud claim
Tick Tock bro! Any minute that whistle blower is gonna blow the lid off the biggest thing since Watergate! Tick! Tock!
Page 5 of 15
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News