re: As a Trump supporter, I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim

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As a Trump supporter, I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim

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You must not have been awake at 11 pm on Nov 3, 2020, when 6 swing states all shut down counting simultaneously. With Trump in the lead by a wide margin in each.

You dont need massive voter fraud, you only need it in a few counties.

there is fraud in our elections. The majority of democrat voters believe it and the majority of republican voters believe it.

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Yes, mostly how the court circumvented state legislators and passed unconstitutional laws.

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Well when Trump refers to “fraud” he also means that side of things as well. So you do believe in at least half of the “voter fraud” allegations as he intends the term.

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Yes, mostly how the court circumvented state legislators and passed unconstitutional laws.

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Which resulted in... come on say it with me.... massive ballot harvesting which allowed unverified, unvetted, and undocumented ballots to be counted. When they realized that even that wouldn't be enough? Come on, I know you know this one, and order came down, apparently from God, for the 6 swings states (all of which Trump had a statistically insurmountable lead in) to stop counting the vote. Then at 3 in the morning, a tremendous number of votes were input for Biden, in the very states that were ordered to stop counting!

What does this add up to? Massive voter fraud. Ray Charles can see that shite.

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Did they ever name names?

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Could be a criminal investigation so names can't be released. You'll just have to trust the data presented.

OK thanks.

We can't prove either way.

Unless the system is transparent and auditable, it isn't a credible system.

Therefore, in a system administered by thousands and that has money and power at stake, it is more reasonable to assume fraud is at work in such a system than to believe that it is pristine, perfect and fraud free.

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As a Trump supporter, I don’t believe in the voter fraud claim

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I do, though I think the far bigger explanation for why a huge section of the country voted the way they did was the media going ALL IN to discredit the guy for 5 solid years. You simply can not have that level of Chinese Water Torture day in and day out droning on and on and NOT have it seep into the minds of most people.

Throw that in with Covid and it's enough to make the difference.

I also think there was widespread voter fraud...just in case.

Good to see you, Tusc. Hail Bama sororities and Row Todd!

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Agreed. Voter fraud on the scale needed would be visible. SOMEONE would have opened their mouth and bragged about it.

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There were plenty of people who swore affidavits as to what happened. They were all shut out by the media, just like Hunter Biden’s laptop, and the ones who broke through, the few that did we’re marginalized and called Kooks. Don’t act like this is something that happened in a vacuum.

Drop boxes, 8 weeks to milk dem strongholds for votes, drop in ballots tossed due to problems with signature, etc. plummeted. Trump won 18 of 19 bellwether counties. Something's up.