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re: Are these quotes from MAGA, Bernie Sanders, Obama, or AOC?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Well the problem is seeing home ownership as a wealth building opportunity and teh government policy that came about to protect that.
That's not an issue specific to trade and an issue you know I agree with getting government out of the economic manipulation game. That is NOT what the government interventionists want, clearly.
Even without Gov intervention, it is still a wealth-building tool. The issue is the Government intervention since 2008 has accelerated it and hedge funds took notice. Now no one wants the ride to end even though we have long passed the healthy YoY growth percentages far outpacing wage growth
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm to NC_Tigah
I don’t get it either, NC.
Home ownership is the first step in
most families’ wealth building for many reasons.
Home ownership is the first step in
most families’ wealth building for many reasons.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
No man I mean just be normal. Talk about hunting and fishing and smoking ceegars at poker. Put your brain down for a minute. Quit riling up the minions.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:18 pm to wackatimesthree
What would you consider a trend?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:18 pm to Robin Masters
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The right/left binary is obsolete.
Leftist ideas still produce leftist results.
The fact that some want to post-modernize and "defy classification" the same way people have done it with gender and sex and truth and logic and everything else doesn't mean it actually works out that way, it just means you're claiming something that isn't so.
A guy with a dick and balls is a guy, regardless of whether he tells you he's a chick. Collectivist, socialist thinking will still produce the same results it always has, regardless of whether you think of it that way or classify it as such or not.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:19 pm to stout
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What would you consider a trend?
20 years. A generation.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Still crying and trying to end MAGA!
Moron
Moron
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The jobs being discussed were the lower-level manufacturing jobs MAGA wants back and thinks of as an American birthright, for some reason.
Which jobs?
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Sometime between the halcyon 70s and today.
What jobs, and when did they leave?
You are the one questioning why “MAGA” wants the jobs back, if you don’t know what the jobs are and when they left, what exactly are you questioning?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:21 pm to wackatimesthree
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Leftist ideas still produce leftist results. The fact that some want to post-modernize and "defy classification" the same way people have done it with gender and sex and truth and logic and everything else doesn't mean it actually works out that way, it just means you're claiming something that isn't so. A guy with a dick and balls is a guy, regardless of whether he tells you he's a chick. Collectivist, socialist thinking will still produce the same results it always has, regardless of whether you think of it that way or classify it as such or not.
No disagreement here
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:21 pm to VOR
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Home ownership is the first step in
most families’ wealth building for many reasons.
It's often (although not always) better than renting, but when you factor in the cost of the mortgage, assuming you financed, there are better ways.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:22 pm to wackatimesthree
That's extreme. I think 5-10 years warrants a concerning trend. Even the 2 years is concerning if it holds again this year
In 20 years most boomers will be dead.
In 20 years most boomers will be dead.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
Wood.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:23 pm to Robin Masters
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The right/left binary is obsolete.
So you agree with Bernie, AOC, and Obama?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:24 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Wood.
Yep.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
It sounds like Obama.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:28 pm to NC_Tigah
Without seeing homes as a wealth building vehicle, we would not have had the post 2009 policies that grew our public debt to 25T+ (the gap is Covid borrowing)
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:28 pm to InkStainedWretch
Following up on what I posted, the Wallace movement is sometimes called one of the foundational blocks of the conservative movement that eventually produced Reagan, etc. That's solely because of social issues and because he advocated against a strong centralized federal government.
The reality, though, is that economically George Wallace was somewhat to the left of Leon Trotsky. That's why I compare his movement to what we're seeing today, the disconnect that bothers folks like SFP.
The reality, though, is that economically George Wallace was somewhat to the left of Leon Trotsky. That's why I compare his movement to what we're seeing today, the disconnect that bothers folks like SFP.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The right/left binary is obsolete. So you agree with Bernie, AOC, and Obama?
So if I reject the premise that suggests I have to always be maligned with them then you assume I’m embracing one that requires me to agree with them?
This seems like exactly the kind of thing you would parody on here.
For the record I was responding to Rogers statement that ideology was being rejected because it has.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:30 pm to stout
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That's extreme
I respect that as your opinion, but I disagree. Oh, maybe 20 years without a range is a little long, but I'm sticking with 10-20 for sure.
I will say that I could buy a 5-10 year movement being a meaningful trend if we're talking about a very extreme change.
The bigger the change, the less time necessary to consider it a meaningful or definitive trend.
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In 20 years most boomers will be dead.
Well, yeah. That's kind of the point. When that happens inside of 20 years, the direction will definitely shift again.
That's exactly why I would look at longer cycles to determine actual permanent trends that aren't subject to natural movement from something as transient as a population bulge, or a war, or COVID, or some other rare occurrence.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:30 pm to canyon
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No man I mean just be normal. Talk about hunting and fishing and smoking ceegars at poker. Put your brain down for a minute. Quit riling up the minions.
Wouldn't start out as a political discussion, but does give rise to a discussion about Cuban cigars, and you've got a political argument again. But this, all of this, is academic.
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