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Ok, yes. How’s that, asswipe?
Whatever. There is no answer I could give you that would satisfy you.

Basically, I believe college football is a business as much as it is a sport, and I have no problem with that.

I have no problems with the federal courts … and I will remind you that the Supreme Court decision that opened the door to this was 9-0 and that noted left-winger Brett Kavanaugh signaled strongly that he was ready to go even farther toward the players’ side … getting involved in this business/sport and making sure it follows the same laws as any other businesses.

I have no problem with players getting paid and with coaches no longer getting to be absolute dictators over peons, the ones who can’t abide it will get out like Saban and Dabo’s days are numbered.

I do have a problem with the wide-open portal.

I think the biggest reason old-line fans … and I am pushing 70 … are so butt hurt is that while fans certainly “pay the bills,” although the reality is more nuanced than that, they are learning that they never really had any concrete ownership in this stuff like they thought they had and that they aren’t going to be the primary factor in the equation of this sport moving forward, the players are no longer going to be transitory and disposable gladiators whose only purpose is to entertain the fans.

If that squashes some traditions, so be it, because while the devotion to tradition has certainly been part of what makes the sport great, it’s also IMO held it back in ways.

Where we are right now was absolutely inevitable once the money became insane and once the right court case was filed, everything before was a house of cards held together by “tradition.”
I did, I told you that the requirement that they attend classes will go away within our lifetimes, and they will be basically paid PR representatives of the university. And I don’t really care about that or have any issues with it.

But to give you the answer you’re seeking, the amount that they would pay out of their pockets to attend school should they choose to do would seem huge for average schmucks but is microscopic compared to what the hawgs that are feeding at the trough of college football are taking away from it. And the players are the ones actually risking their lives and limbs in this deal.
Ohio State would not come close to being unbeaten playing a conference schedule in the SEC.
Within our lifetimes attending classes will not be a requirement to play unless you just want to, these teams are basically PR arms for universities now.
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When you play in the stacked SEC your strength of schedule can be more than enough even if you have 2-3 losses.


This is what the OP isn’t getting. The SEC is inherently superior to all other conferences, any team can beat any other team on a given day when the planets align, and with a 9-game schedule I am not playing jack caca out of conference.
Not one damn bit. The reality today in the current landscape of the sport is that your entire reason and motivation for doing this, period and mic drop, should be getting into the field to play for the big trophy, and if big intersectional regular season games between traditional powers are an impediment to getting into the field to play for the big trophy, au revoir to them. Is what it is.
Again, Indiana is the media darling this year because the media likes underdogs and, especially, likes new faces, and the media is going to ride that to the bitter end. They’ll get dropped like a sizzling tater if they lose.
College football is not sacred to the United States of America. That is simply insane.

Not a bit of what is being discussed here will get by the courts, who are driving the car here and absolutely, without question, have the right to interfere in a private organization’s operations if they violate federal law or intrastate commerce regulations.

People need to accept that this is a business, and they need to understand that it was inevitable that we were going to get to this point when the big money started coming in.

The one thing that needs to be done is the Wild West portal reeled in through collective bargaining. That will pass legal muster and solve the most pressing problem.

But some fans are never going to be satisfied until something is by God imposed on the players and we return to the era where coaches are all Sgt. Hartman from Full Metal Jacket and players are basically uncompensated … college scholarships are nothing compared to the money people are making from this sport … and disposable gladiators who only exist to entertain the fans.
People have been obsessing that they’re just a bunch of 3 star players compared to our 4 and 5 stars. But if the 4 and 5 stars don’t execute and make mistakes, and the 3 stars execute and don’t make mistakes, who really has the advantage?
Merry Christmas and the happiest of New Years!
I know that but Jack was quoted in the book as basically saying that he thought Arnie was an obstacle he had to destroy to be the greatest golfer in the world which he was determined to be no matter what it took. Again, in hindsight and with more maturity he realized he took it too far although he never stopped being hugely competitive.
There was a great book that came out a few years back about the Nicklaus-Palmer rivalry. Short version, the young Jack Nicklaus was maybe the most competitive MF ever to be on the Tour, Tiger Woods wasn’t close. He didn’t just want to beat Palmer on the course, he wanted to cut his liver out and eat it. And Arnie was starting to wane when Jack was hitting his stride, and Arnie had people sympathetic to him and Jack being a barracuda rubbed people the wrong way. As he got older and matured Jack realized he probably could have reeled in the hyper competitiveness a bit and still excelled. And at the end he and Arnie were legitimately tight.
I think Amarillo is talking about Western Pennsylvania people who live outside big cities like Pittsburgh, like I’m talking about people who live outside Seattle in Washington.

I got to travel a lot in my job and I absolutely ran into that. Honestly, the worst place I ever encountered such crap was Missouri, you could tell that every time someone looked at me as being from Alabama, they were seeing Gomer Pyle. People in NYC weren’t even close to them as far as snootiness. I guess they forgot they were basically an outlaw border state during the Civil War.

One of the most welcoming places for Southerners is in Washington state, up above Seattle, where we have relatives. People in that area are country folks, only difference is the trees are pointy and they drink as much wine and cider (both outstanding) as they do beer.
I’m very confident about this game even though I do think Indiana is a quality team, they’re not just lucky they’re good. But when you get to the second round of the playoffs you’re supposed to be good.
I said there’s a bunch of that involved now. It wasn’t all that way in the past. Northern writers almost universally adored and respected Coach Bryant.

More than anything, Indiana is “the big story” for the media right now and they’re going to dismiss anything that interferes with the narrative of ‘the big story,”
That’s more true in today’s politically polarized environment but there’s also a fatigue factor involved, people outside their fan base despised the Yankees back in the 1950s when they won all those championships, there was even a hit Broadway musical about hating the Yankees.
IMO there’s an obvious difference between trolls and people who simply disagree. It’s the tone of the posts, and trolls not finding ANYTHING to be happy about in the performance of this team this year.

I also don’t think people who rant out of frustration when we’re down 17-0, etc., are trolls. They’re just frustrated fans.

But this thread has gotten so far out into the Twilight Zone to where I don’t know if anyone is going to see any distinctions.
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We aren't going to be a great rushing offense, but I sure would love to see us be able to run effectively enough to get the play action going and keep teams from playing on the pass. At this juncture, I'd love to see a 3 digit rushing total but just want the primary ball carrier to average 4 per.


All this …
Again it’s the eyes. Those are not the eyes of a soft man. I would not want to be on DeBoer’s bad side. Saban’s tough but he’d spew or sputter for a while in a bar fight before he got down to business. I think DeBoer would go directly to punching without passing Go. And no that doesn’t transfer directly to coaching athletes LOL.