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re: are there still people who still believe the earth is warming and man caused it?

Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Wow you've really been on an evil "blog" kick lately, dont you think it's time for a new excuse?



I guess you're right, the denialists don't even use blogs to defend their positions anymore. They just state that they feel they must be right, and that's all we need to know.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:02 pm to
And you are a red giraffe because of global warming. I will send some money to Al Gore to help you become cooler.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:02 pm to
I'm not arguing that people's activity has no impact or that change is not occurring or that it should not be explored.

I just don't see an immediate impending disaster that justifies taking more of my money
and I don't see how you will get people around the globe to act in concert without employing some very expensive violence and brutality.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:03 pm to
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I just don't see an immediate impending disaster that justifies taking more of my money


You'd prefer to wait until impending disaster?

Does that seem like a good idea to you? Do you wait until you're about to get into a car accident to put on a seatbelt?
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59878 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:06 pm to
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Because, believe it or not, the US is not the entire world. Also, believe it or not, weather is not the same as climate.



I know and I didn't try and use this to try and disprove global warming, just try and spark discussion I think recent trends have shown that even if the earth is warming its not as bad as once thought. Also if you look at the entire history (instead of looking at only recent history) we are not in the warmest period of Earth's history, you could actually argue that we are coming out of an ice age or at-least a bellow average cold earth. The earth has survived through warmer and colder times I think we have nothing to worry about. Also it makes no sense that man would cause all of this warming because how could you explain the warming thousands of years ago.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:06 pm to
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You'd prefer to wait until impending disaster?

Does that seem like a good idea to you?


I have limited resources, so the impending issues must be handled first.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:07 pm to
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and I don't see how you will get people around the globe to act in concert without employing some very expensive violence and brutality.

this is the best argument to do nothing IMHO. No way china does anything to curb their CO2 emissions.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:10 pm to
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You'd prefer to wait until impending disaster?


the earth with this natural cycle has survived now humans seem to have no effect on the cycle and you guys want to try and stop something that doesn't seem to be causing anything bad.

it's like saying in the really really distant future this one thing could come out really bad or could come out not bad at all. Let's assume the worst and try and stop it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Personally, I don't consider myself an "alarmist"
Fair statement IMO. My vision of an alarmist is Al Gore talking about growing banana orchards on the Arctic.
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I think any effective method of drawing CO2 from the atmosphere would probably be somewhat energy- and resource-intensive.
Something as simple as transiently enhancing phytoplancton growth could be a solution. i.e., iron seeding might do the trick.
Point being, most folks (even those who are reasonable, and very well informed on the subject, as are you) won't hear much about that, because it's counterproductive to the agenda.


This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:12 pm to
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I have limited resources, so the impending issues must be handled first.



a currency crisis is a lot more likely and close at hand than a climate crisis. Let's get our currency and most currencies fixed before we spent billions on very ineffective "clean" energy.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59878 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:13 pm to
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Fair statement IMO. My vision of an alarmist is Al Gore talking about growing banana orchards on the Arctic.



even if this where to happen which I doubt this is not going to happen in our life times or even our great grandchildren's lifetime
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:14 pm to
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And you are a red giraffe because of global warming. I will send some money to Al Gore to help you become cooler.


Well have fun wasting your money then. Not really sure what he's gonna do with it that would be useful.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:17 pm to
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dantes69


Not sure you totally understand the meaning of - FACT.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:17 pm to
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Although I happen to think the earth is a type of living thing that constantly adapts and changes to conditions, maybe not always for the better of mankind.


I agree with this. The earth isn't going anywhere because of what we do. It's the human race's future that is at stake.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59878 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:17 pm to
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The dearth of hurricanes is man's fault.


pretty sure it was one of those nina events that caused the pacific to be over active and the atlantic to be under active

man has nothing to do with it
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:17 pm to
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Water vapor is short-lived and does not accumulate.
Hmmm. You might want to revisit that. Without a significant change in water vapor content, GW can't happen. CO2 retains very little heat at atmospheric T-Ps
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:18 pm to
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I have limited resources, so the impending issues must be handled first.



Such as?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36132 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:19 pm to
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the earth with this natural cycle has survived now humans seem to have no effect on the cycle and you guys want to try and stop something that doesn't seem to be causing anything bad.



Humans do have an effect on the climate. Fricken PLANTS have an effect on climate and they don't even have brains.

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it's like saying in the really really distant future this one thing could come out really bad or could come out not bad at all. Let's assume the worst and try and stop it.


its not like saying that, because its going to come out bad.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167509 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:20 pm to
So GW and manmade CC are all fake as Dolly Parton's boobs, you agree?

BTW: today is the most depressing day of the year it must be because of GW.

LINK
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:20 pm to
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Such as?



my lack of access to resources due to fedgov regulations.
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