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re: are there still people who still believe the earth is warming and man caused it?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:16 pm to catholictigerfan
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:16 pm to catholictigerfan
quote:There will always be snake oil salesmen.
are there still people who still believe the earth is warming and man caused it?
And there will always be suckers who buy it.
It's comical what the elite expect us to buy.
Sometimes I wonder what the general public won't fall for.
Here's the really sad part....had a Republican proposed "Global Warming" the tenor of this board would be much different.
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:16 pm to KeyserSoze999
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now how the freak would you are anyone else know this?
Are you serious?
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All I'm saying is that your pulling bullshite out yo arse because its what you want to believe.
I guess you are. Look, I don't really have the time or energy to explain to you how we know there are fewer trees in the world today than there were 100 years ago. If you are willing to dispute this, then you will dispute anything. There is no point arguing with you, you are a lost cause.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:17 pm to OMLandshark
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Anyone who says that mankind doesn't affect the climate in some way is a real fool. I'm not sure of the degree that we're affecting it,
I do agree with this. The world has never had this many people on it generating this much waste and using this much energy and resources.
Although I happen to think the earth is a type of living thing that constantly adapts and changes to conditions, maybe not always for the better of mankind.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:17 pm to Korkstand
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I'm glad you pointed out my fallacy, as mine was in response the logical fallacy that, since man is natural, everything he does is natural.
Touche
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:27 pm to red_giraffe
Little hijack of thread with apologies. Just gleaned from Drudge two ideas. The average temp in the nation at the moment is 14.8 degrees The second is that the temp at the South Pole is warmer than O'Hare in Chitown.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:27 pm to TX Tiger
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Here's the really sad part....had a Republican proposed "Global Warming" the tenor of this board would be much different.
Perhaps, a little bit different, but it's still a tax so I *think* the majority would still be against it.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:27 pm to TX Tiger
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had a Republican proposed "Global Warming" the tenor of this board would be much different.
You could not possibly be more wrong. GW is totally consistent with hard left ideology. It's an attempt to extort money from the developed world and give it to the third world.
It's an attempt to centralize global authority.
It's heavily into de-dev.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:30 pm to Zach
quote:I explained in another thread why our CO2 is significant. A very slight increase in CO2 inputs into the system results in compounding accumulation. You need to understand this fact before you can argue this point further.
Wrong. Our CO2 is insignificant. More CO2 comes from vegetation rotting after it dies.
quote:Water vapor is short-lived and does not accumulate. CO2 is long-lived and accumulates rapidly. CO2 absorbs radiation in wavelengths that water vapor does not. You need to understand these facts before you can argue this point further.
Besides, CO2 is not a significant GH gas. It's water vapor. Would you like us to eliminate water?
quote:While this seems intuitive, it is only true under specific conditions. This has been tested pretty extensively, and results are mixed.
If CO2 is increasing then plant life will boom.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:31 pm to TX Tiger
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had a Republican proposed "Global Warming" the tenor of this board would be much different.
horseshite! I would have denounced the GOP and called them out a very long time ago on this. Just like I have no problem calling the GOP out now on being a-hole Carl Rove media whore democrats.
The $64000 question is why don't progressives ever call out the fraud of the democratic party?
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:44 pm to OMLandshark
fact - more CO2 is released in 1 volcanic eruption then all of mankind has produced since the beginning of time.
fact - dozens of volcanic eruption happen every year, and have since the beginning of time.
fact - Mars is undergoing the same temperature changes as earth, please explain how mankind is causing it.
fact - anyone who thinks that mankind can affect, or change the climate is arrogant beyond belief, and has delusions of grandeur.
fact - dozens of volcanic eruption happen every year, and have since the beginning of time.
fact - Mars is undergoing the same temperature changes as earth, please explain how mankind is causing it.
fact - anyone who thinks that mankind can affect, or change the climate is arrogant beyond belief, and has delusions of grandeur.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:44 pm to ironsides
quote:And the Patriot Act wasn't? How about the bailouts?
Here's the really sad part....had a Republican proposed "Global Warming" the tenor of this board would be much different.
Perhaps, a little bit different, but it's still a tax so I *think* the majority would still be against it.
It all comes under the umbrella of scam, just different packaging depending upon which set of suckers they're pandering to.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:46 pm to Korkstand
It's like trying to explain space travel to someone fromthe middle ages.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:51 pm to dantes69
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fact - more CO2 is released in 1 volcanic eruption then all of mankind has produced since the beginning of time.
fact - dozens of volcanic eruption happen every year, and have since the beginning of time.
fact - Mars is undergoing the same temperature changes as earth, please explain how mankind is causing it.
fact - anyone who thinks that mankind can affect, or change the climate is arrogant beyond belief, and has delusions of grandeur.
FACT - 0 of your claims are backed up by sources.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:51 pm to Vegas Bengal
better analogy is that its like trying to explain how the earth is flat to people who know better. But you and the teammates can arrogantly continue, especially if you think it makes a difference.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:52 pm to red_giraffe
no one around here is backing up any claims, but nice try.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:52 pm to NC_Tigah
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For example, were CO2 an actual major greenhouse element in our atmosphere, and were there also methods to draw CO2 level down independent of industrial output, would warmist alarmists implement it? Would they pursue a solution which drew atmospheric CO2 levels down at the same time industrial output continued as is?
Or would they ignore that solution, simply because their goal is as much anti-industrial and anti-fossilfuel, as it is cooling the planet?
Personally, I don't consider myself an "alarmist", so I can't really attest to the thought process. But my own thoughts are as follows:
I think any effective method of drawing CO2 from the atmosphere would probably be somewhat energy- and resource-intensive. I also think that, if such a thing were viable, we shouldn't just start sucking out CO2 willy-nilly. I think a lot more research needs to be done to determine precisely the impact it would make. In general, though, I think "alarmists" would at least think about accepting such a solution. After all, it's generally a good idea that we clean up after ourselves.
Further, my personal stance on fossil fuels is that we should continue working on viable alternatives sooner rather than later. Maybe this is irrational, but I fear that given the finite availability of it, if there aren't competitive alternatives already available by the time it becomes scarce then we would be in for a world of hurt economically. I think it's a good idea to be prepared for the (seemingly) inevitable.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:54 pm to Vegas Bengal
Yes, yes, that is it, we are the Flintstones and you are the Jetsons. Who do you think you are fooling? 
You are damned good at polishing the turd. Next you will try to explain to us nimrod Fred Flintstones, how democrats will save us all. GENTLE, KIND,NEWSFLASH: your politics has gone cultish.
You are damned good at polishing the turd. Next you will try to explain to us nimrod Fred Flintstones, how democrats will save us all. GENTLE, KIND,NEWSFLASH: your politics has gone cultish.Posted on 1/6/14 at 12:57 pm to Korkstand
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Further, my personal stance on fossil fuels is that we should continue working on viable alternatives sooner rather than later.
I agree...
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Maybe this is irrational, but I fear that given the finite availability of it,
..and for this reason not some political agenda masquerading as science
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:00 pm to CITWTT
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The average temp in the nation at the moment is 14.8 degrees The second is that the temp at the South Pole is warmer than O'Hare in Chitown.
its really cold out there! But to be fair, this is the south pole's summer. So its a lot warmer.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 1:00 pm to KeyserSoze999
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no one around here is backing up any claims, but nice try.
Everyone's doing it so it must be okay! Yay!
Fact - the flying spaghetti monster just ate the pink unicorns on Mars.
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