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Are electronic prices the greatest success of capitalism in history?

Posted on 8/23/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/23/26 at 11:46 am
I think Clay Travis has a point here. I can’t think of another product in history that has seen such a remarkable collapse in price. Perhaps Rockefeller/Standard oil in 19th century with Kerosene/oil prices?





It’s frustrating because you see these massive price collapses which should cause capitalism popularity to rise, but then turn around and see something as seemingly simple as childcare soar 450% since 1980s.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 8/23/26 at 11:49 am to
Let's hope we see the electronic price collapse affect the auto and truck industry as well.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28208 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 11:53 am to
The faster the manufacturer can get a 4 year old to assemble it, the steeper the price drop.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:00 pm to
Now do RAM, GPU, and semiconductors.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
781 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:03 pm to
If AI is as good as advertised, we will see deflation across many products and services. The deflation in electronics is directly related to factory automation and competition.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10212 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:08 pm to
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then turn around and see something as seemingly simple as childcare soar 450% since 1980s.


That's due to the exact opposite of capitalism. That's due to government regulations and lawsuit insurance.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:12 pm to
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see something as seemingly simple as childcare soar 450% since 1980s.



Oh, an Indonesian 6-yr old will watch your kid cheap.
This post was edited on 8/23/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66912 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:25 pm to
They want everyone to get smart TV's.

For some reason.

But yeah, it's amazing. I saw a 60 inch at Wal Mart for 250.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9254 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:29 pm to
The price of luxuries are collapsing while the prices of necessities are skyrocketing.

You can’t single out the success of one while ignoring the cost of the other. The two are inextricably linked.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
21529 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:32 pm to
If it was purchased at Walmart it's disposable. It won't last 3 years.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50960 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:35 pm to
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It’s frustrating because you see these massive price collapses which should cause capitalism popularity to rise


On products that are primarily designed and made in communist China and sold in capitalist America
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56651 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:38 pm to
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If AI is as good as advertised, we will see deflation across many products and services. The deflation in electronics is directly related to factory automation and competition.


What will billions of people around the world be doing when AI, automation and robotics assume the majority role of production? We've seen automobile production go from very little automation/robotics in 1980 to auto plants full of automation and robotics.

In 1980 a vehicle required around 35 labor hours to complete, in the year 2025 a vehicle requires around 22 labor hours complete. How long will it be until the typical auto plant has a few dozen people working in support of a fully automated vehicle production plant? Probably in the next 5-10 years and one should assume if auto/vehicle production becomes +90% automated other manufacturing and industrial facilities will follow the same course of automation.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20905 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:54 pm to
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That's due to the exact opposite of capitalism. That's due to government regulations and lawsuit insurance.


One could argue thats the same issue with automobiles. Every time they put in some new regulations the auto companies have to retool, then the next law changes it back, or adds another, etc. It adds 1000s of needless cost to a vehicle.

Even if the reg is dropped that manufacturer will have to depreciate or amortize the initial cost onto vehicles for years, even if its not there anymore.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118084 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:55 pm to
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the greatest success of capitalism in history?

The Industrial Revolution in England in the 18th century was pretty important.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
491 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:57 pm to
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but then turn around and see something as seemingly simple as childcare soar 450% since 1980s.


More women in the workplace. Less stay at home moms. The economy evolved to a two income household. Couples decided they needed to incomes to make it. Childcare industry takes advantage of this raises costs because of increased demand.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36599 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:02 pm to
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then turn around and see something as seemingly simple as childcare soar 450% since 1980s.


Electronics pricing has decreased due to automation and cheap foreign labor, neither of which has anything to do with childcare.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39249 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:07 pm to
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Are electronic prices the greatest success of capitalism in history?


Personally I think it’s giving the poor access to a kings diet and healthcare. The simple fact that the poorest Americans live better than the richest of kings 500 years ago is testament to capitalism.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7407 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:37 pm to
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the prices of necessities are skyrocketing.


Prices aren’t skyrocketing.
The value of your dollar is declining.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21235 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:37 pm to
We are holding out hope that LED’s may one day be able to help get and maintain an erection, then that will be the greatest.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72873 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 2:05 pm to
Well thats just not true. I have a $150 smart TV from Walmart in my shop overhang thats 6 or 7 years old and still works fine, bird nests and dust and weather and all.
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