re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

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Just admit you didn't read the OP.

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I didn’t read the OP. I actually watched marxist frick-uppery as it crumbled.

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Right. And meanwhile revolving credit card debt is close to all time highs.

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I read this shite all the time on here.

There are more people in this country than ever before.

There is more wealth in this country than ever before.

We buy more shite and services than ever before.

Why wouldn't revolving credit card debt be close to an all-time high?

Credit Card Debt/GDP

In 2008: 6%

In 2019: 4.2%

Today: 3.9%

Didn’t read. Immediate downvote

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Just admit you are t here for rational discussion

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And y'all are giving her the trolling attention she wants. She baits with a topic that could be interesting and lures people in (every thread she starts is double digit number of replies), then won't engage honestly while feigning doing so.

Took me a while to get there myself, but I'm out.

She's now in the same category as squirrelmeister for me from here on out.

Like Phill Collins. No reply at all.

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How did you draw this conclusion?

I’m asking how we got where we are economically. I don’t have a prepared answer.

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There is no middle class in Marxism.
The state tells you what you are, why you are and when you can do what you may be able to do.

There are no Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon's, Edison's, Tesla's, et.al., in Marxists countries.

How are the economics in socialist countries? Why in hell would you want that unless you were already rich and protected or uneducated and lazy?

How can you justify taking from person A who works, pays taxes and produces something to give to person B who sits at home, watches the View and eats Cheeto's all day?

Is that fair? Please answer.

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You might not quite understand the circular logic of our consumer economy

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The one that has the highest disposable income in the world? The one where the poor live like kings? The one that has eliminated actual poverty from the shores of the USA (save for homeless drug addicts and mentally ill - who could get help but choose not to)?

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Eventually you might see that the logic in this system can't run indefinitely. Even if it is the best known system in practice.

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The sun will die eventually. Point?

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So every single thread about our modern economy warrants a discussion about the USSR?

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Considering the post(s) you are responding to I doubt you recognize how offputting your rhetorical is.

When your attribution of American success is to "luck" or "random happenstance," and you seem to not even consider international relativity, whether historical or current, it makes a reasonable exchange difficult.

Nor is this, by necessity, an Americentric argument.

In fact, as your bent is to assume American success as ascribable to noneconomic factors (luck, geography, natural resources, etc), it would be better to remove the US from the equation altogether. Consider instead, situations in which the only significant variable is the economic model itself.

North Korea / South Korea
Prior to WWII Korea was a single nation. It's northern regions were industrialized and significantly more affluent than the south. Southern GDP/c was about 60% of the North.
Subsequently the peninsula was divided politically and by economic model
Saltman's preferred Marxism was employed in the North.
His ""austerity inducing"" capitalism was installed in the South.

80yrs later, and the South outstrips the North roughly 50-fold in GDP/c.
That would be the most direct example.

I've mentioned Ireland vs the UK.

An example involving the same country would be South Africa. The economic transition toward Marxism and economic results would be dispositive there. Likewise, antithetically, in past communist bloc nations transitioned to capitalism.

How many have actually read Marx or have learned the history of the Bolsheviks beyond the surface of undergrad textbooks…

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Central planning isn’t the solution.

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I wonder how we can roll this back. Realistically.