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re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:15 pm to
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Cubbies replied to the post, but completely ignored that part of it

Right. I’m not really interested in having a discussion about poverty in other countries in a thread about economic conditions in the USA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:17 pm to
Do you not see how they are related? Or how capitalism influenced that?

It doesn't make you think why these other systems kept them down and how we've seen such improvement as more capitalism has been adopted? Or what would happen if the opposite happened and we started removing capitalism?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:21 pm to
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Right. I’m not really interested in having a discussion about poverty in other countries in a thread about economic conditions in the USA.


So, what exactly would be your reference point for a discussion about "Marxian economics" instead?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:23 pm to
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So, what exactly would be your reference point for a discussion about "Marxian economics" instead?

The text in the OP. How is that confusing? What else would you expect me to discuss if not the OP?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:25 pm to
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The text in the OP. How is that confusing?


Because the text in the OP is meaningless absent any reference point?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:25 pm to
Vis a vis "Marxian economics," of course.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Do you not see how they are related? Or how capitalism influenced that?

I honestly don't see he direct relevance to what is quoted in the OP. I'm sure a multi-paragraph argument could made connecting them, but the USSR doesn't have an obvious connection to stagnate wages alongside immense economic growth in the USA across decades.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:26 pm to
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I don’t get it.

I know. That’s why you refuse to respond to logic.

Care to respond to ANYTHING?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Because the text in the OP is meaningless absent any reference point?

You need to compare stagnate wages in the USA alongside immense economic growth to communism in order to explain how that happened?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39502 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Right. I’m not really interested in having a discussion about poverty in other countries in a thread about economic conditions in the USA.


From the rooftops.

Again.



HIGHEST.

DISPOSABLE.

INCOME.

IN.

WORLD.


HISTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Right. I’m not really interested in having a discussion about poverty in other countries in a thread about economic conditions in the USA.

How do you propose having a meaningful discussion about Marxian economics while restricting the discussion exclusively to the U.S., a country that has never adopted a Marxist economic system?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Disposable income of your average US citizen is at an all time high, and still the world leader.


It helps to understand how averages work
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:30 pm to
It never wanted a real discussion just a crop dusting of the poli board lol
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:31 pm to
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It helps to understand how averages work


Per capita. Median. Average. All have the same end result, powerbottom.


HIGHEST.

IN.

WORLD.


HISTORY.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:32 pm to
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How do you propose having a meaningful discussion about Marxian economics while restricting the discussion exclusively to the U.S., a country that has never adopted a Marxist economic system?


I read a paragraph in an academic article that I found interesting. The text discussed current economic conditions in the United States that seem counterintuitive. I fail to see how comparing our current economic conditions to socialism helps to explain how our current conditions manifested. I just am having a hard time connecting those dots.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:33 pm to
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I’m not really interested in having a discussion about poverty in other countries in a thread about economic conditions in the USA.


Define poverty.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176991 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:34 pm to
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Per capita. Median. Average. All have the same end result, powerbottom.


HIGHEST.

IN.

WORLD.


HISTORY.

Right. And meanwhile revolving credit card debt is close to all time highs.

Vehicle debt is also at an all time high

So what you're referring to as average might not apply to the "average" person.

The average of surplus income is extremely skewed by the top 10% of wage earners. So your bountiful disposable income statistic that you threw out does in fact need context.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112281 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:34 pm to
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I read a paragraph in an academic article that I found interesting. The text discussed current economic conditions in the United States that seem counterintuitive. I fail to see how comparing our current economic conditions to socialism helps to explain how our current conditions manifested. I just am having a hard time connecting those dots.


So you chose the title of your thread as just inflammatory bullshite?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:36 pm to
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Right. And meanwhile revolving credit card debt is close to all time highs.


People make choices and spend their disposable income in stupid ways. Oh no!
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Vehicle debt is also at an all time high


See above.

quote:

So what you're referring to as average might not apply to the "average" person.


Not at all. It isn’t a disposable income problem, it’s a spending on stupid shite problem.

quote:

So your bountiful disposable income statistic that you threw out does in fact need context.


Nope. You just think that people making stupid financial decisions means they don’t have disposable income. They have it, they just spend it on stupid shite.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 5:37 pm to
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So you chose the title of your thread as just inflammatory bullshite?


I chose the title of the thread because the theorist who proposed the ideas in the quoted text comes from the school of thought called Marxian economics.

Just admit you didn't read the OP.
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