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re: America is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee health care for all

Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by burdhead
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:13 pm to
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You molest collies.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:14 pm to
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America is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee health care for all.....is that a major issue that should be addressed in the 2018 midterm elections non-stop from NJ to the hills of Oregon?


Sweet you should have plenty of places to choose to move!
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:20 pm to
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is that a major issue that should be addressed in the 2018 midterm elections non-stop from NJ to the hills of Oregon?


No. It's your personal responsibility to:

1. Lead a healthy lifestyle.
2. Get an education that qualifies you for a job with healthcare benefits or allows you to pay for your own benefits.

The end. Medicaid/care is the leading cause of rising healthcare costs because of the insane amounts of fraud both from medical practitioners/facilities and patients. Medicaid/care will pay more? Prices rise. Prices rise? Medicaid/care pays more. As the prices go higher people bitch to government to take care of them instead of bitching to government to stop skewing the fricking system.

We have unemployment lower than it's been in almost 20 years, unemployment that is at record lows for minorities and at a ~40-year low for women, we have a roaring GDP, trade imbalances being corrected and rising wages. We have at least one of our sworn enemies BEGGING to negotiate with us and actual trading partners (begrudgingly) coming to the table so we can make better deals for us.

Even with all that there are still those short-sighted morons that will blindly follow anyone that supports a #MoreFreeGuhmintStuff campaign because their narrow perceptions and religious-zealot-like devotion to their own political bias will not allow them to see that government addiction is one of -if not the- largest detriment to success anyone can face.

I tell ya what... once all government social programs shift from focusing on trying to recruit more people onto programs and begin focusing on trying to teach people to make better life decisions that allow them to get off said programs (or kick them off if they refuse), then we can start discussing such programs as being worthwhile. Until then, no.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:20 pm to
other Countries you may wait for months maybe even a year before you receive the care you need. Many people die waiting for health care.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:22 pm to
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from NJ to the hills of Oregon?


Does New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts and Maine not deserve health care?
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:24 pm to
One look at the way our veterans are treated with their healthcare can help you realize how this is not a good thing.

Give me my freedom to choose who treats me and when I can be treated based on what I can afford.

What’s next, guaranteed drivers’insurance? Guaranteed home insurance?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:24 pm to
No

next stupid question

Let's have death panels but not call them that like the UK does!

Let's have a separate private system for the rich who can afford it like the UK does. If it is so wonderful why do they need that?

Medicare and SS will already bankrupt the country, let's go for the fricking trifecta!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:27 pm to
If you think tariffs will raise the prices on things, that will just be chicken feed compared to what prices would do if all businesses are forced to provide coverage. They sure as hell aren't going to absorb the costs.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4940 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:27 pm to
The economy is booming and there are a ton of job openings. Yet I still see the same people sitting around doing nothing. I don’t care if those lazy fricks get stage 4 cancer, AIDS and a STD. If you don’t work, you shouldn’t eat or get free healthcare, unless you have NO ARMS OR LEGS would be the only acceptable reason for you not to work and get free food and health care. I have a co-worker with 1 arm and 1 leg and he works his arse off. No excuses.

I still find it funny that America is the only country in the world where the poor people are fat.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22977 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:28 pm to
Get a frickin job. America takes care of those without healthcare... it is called medicaid.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:28 pm to
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America is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee health care for all


Fact is, if you don't have health care and you need it, you can't be denied care if you go through the ER. They will treat you. Now you won't be free from the cost of that care and that's how it should be. No one should be able to get something for Free.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37609 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:30 pm to
I lived for two year in the South of France and France has universal coverage, but it's not all that universal. If you are an immigrant you get very limited care and if you want something out of the ordinary like a hip replacement, etc. you will pay for it.

The French docs I encountered though were very good....the one thing they don't have is bloated office personnel like here in the States and a lot less heart disease.....we have a lot more heart and cardio-vascular disease in this county than the rest of the industrialized world .
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:30 pm to
You can cry from your mountaintop but Obamacare was a disaster and if you Snowflakes would just try to cooperate with Trump we could make healthcare affordable and drugs cost less........


But you melting fools will just keep resisting and the states are now having to care where Obamacare stopped......


And if you guys would stop illegals who are costing state health care billions there would be more money for citizens......
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:31 pm to
36th DV.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14115 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:32 pm to
Absolutely not!

I am not in the least interested in the crap called socialized medicine 'guaranteed' elsewhere. As it is, the quality of my healthcare is going downhill, thanks in no small part to BHO and his goal of destroying America.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:34 pm to
phuc u libbies. we don't need no fricking obamashit!
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:37 pm to
We're also by freaking far the richest nation on the face of the earth. Do you rekon it might have something to do with individual responsibility for your own damn welfare and the freedom to go for it if your so amind too? I damn sure do.

Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15787 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:38 pm to
Every American receives health care. Some just don't pay for it while others pick up the tab.

Ever wonder why your tab is so high....DUUUUUH
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 5:40 pm
Posted by RTRLSD
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39533 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 5:41 pm to
This would be one of the biggest disasters in this countries history if they ever do this. We’d be finished
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