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Amazing rescue of WSO, and now Iran wants peace - hhhmmm
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:09 am
I think the rescue mission was a large wake up call for Iran. We committed everything to save one person and that is where we are different than Iran. Our people matter to us and it will just get worse the more they try to punch back.
We lost 0 people and were willing to blow up our own planes in doing so. Iran probably lost multiple fighters and precious equipment they cannot afford to lose.
We lost 0 people and were willing to blow up our own planes in doing so. Iran probably lost multiple fighters and precious equipment they cannot afford to lose.
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:13 am to DarthRebel
The rescue mission was a great example of the leave no man behind thinking of our military operations
We're dealing with psychotic suicidal theocrats. As admirable as it is to the both of us, they might perceive it as a weakness to exploit.
We're dealing with psychotic suicidal theocrats. As admirable as it is to the both of us, they might perceive it as a weakness to exploit.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:15 am to DarthRebel
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now Iran wants peace
The tail is wagging the dog
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:15 am to DarthRebel
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Iran wants peace
Hopefully it’s in the form of exile.
Otherwise the cycle will repeat. They have a history of saying whatever it takes to self preserve. Only to eventually fund more terrorism.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:23 am to DarthRebel
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the rescue mission was a large wake up call for Iran
Idk. Unless they're brain dead (maybe they are) they had to have known already that we could do whatever we wanted if we were willing to try it.
It's amazing how dominant our military is. We snatched a head of state out of his bed with no losses. We staged a FOB in enemy territory with no infantry on the ground and recovered a downed airman in less than 48 hours with no losses, halfway around the world from our capitol.
Our ability to project power is absurd. Our ability to kick any uniformed state sponsored military's shite in is absurd. We are fricking good. I think Iran already knew that, and what we did probably was no surprise to them.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:26 am to DarthRebel
I don’t believe for a second that Iran wants peace. They want time to inflict further damage. Don’t give it to them.
I’ve seen numerous posts here that refer to the Iranian regime as an apocalyptic death cult. I largely agree with that. You cannot make peace with apocalyptic death cults.
I’ve seen numerous posts here that refer to the Iranian regime as an apocalyptic death cult. I largely agree with that. You cannot make peace with apocalyptic death cults.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:28 am to Figgy
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You cannot make peace with apocalyptic death cults.
Right. Which is why it may not have been wise to start a war with them...hence why myself and many others warned it was a bad idea before we attacked.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:30 am to BobBoucher
IMO the only acceptable peace deal is for the Islamic regime to step down. We should offer them a one time off ramp where they can safely leave the country and we will unfreeze whatever personal assets they have.
Otherwise we will continue to kill them until there are no more
Otherwise we will continue to kill them until there are no more
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:31 am to Powerman
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You cannot make peace with apocalyptic death cults.
Right. Which is why it may not have been wise to start a war with them...hence why myself and many others warned it was a bad idea before we attacked
So, just let the rabid dog run loose?? How's that turned out the last 50ish years?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:33 am to lake chuck fan
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So, just let the rabid dog run loose?? How's that turned out the last 50ish years?
Seems to work out pretty well when we're not proactively starting wars against them actually
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:34 am to DarthRebel
It is how they operate. Pressure on so they ask for peace and then walk from negotiations. I would make it clear, the 15 point plan presented by the USA is the only plan and, until signed, there will be pain from the air above.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It's amazing how dominant our military is. We snatched a head of state out of his bed with no losses. We staged a FOB in enemy territory with no infantry on the ground and recovered a downed airman in less than 48 hours with no losses, halfway around the world from our capitol.
Our ability to project power is absurd. Our ability to kick any uniformed state sponsored military's shite in is absurd. We are fricking good. I think Iran already knew that, and what we did probably was no surprise to them.
Our military, especially the spec ops, air force, and navy are almost beyond comprehension, especially in comparison with the rest of the world.
I doubt this was unknown to Iran, and their plan is one of attrition. I don't think this matters much at all to them. The infrastructure threats? More likely.
There's no cognitive dissonance with (1) saying our military is mind-numblingly good and advanced, and it's good we got our guy back; and (2) #1 has no impact on the willingness of the regime ruling Iran to deal.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:38 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It's amazing how dominant our military is. We snatched a head of state out of his bed with no losses. We staged a FOB in enemy territory with no infantry on the ground and recovered a downed airman in less than 48 hours with no losses, halfway around the world from our capitol.
Our ability to project power is absurd. Our ability to kick any uniformed state sponsored military's shite in is absurd. We are fricking good. I think Iran already knew that, and what we did probably was no surprise to them.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:38 am to DarthRebel
IDK the fact they shot down 2 planes probably gave them hope to stay at war. With the MSM reporting how americans aren't supporting the war it has to give them more reason to try to hold on a little longer...i think if the reporting was supportive of how Trump has handled it all the war would've been over weeks ago.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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don't think this matters much at all to them. The infrastructure threats? More likely
Idk about that either. Why would it really matter to the current regime? Sure they'd rather keep it all in tact but I'm sure they'd rather see their cities burn than relinquish power. They killed tens of thousands of their own citizens recently. Why not allow the US to kick off a humanitarian crisis? They can't win on the battlefield.
The only thing that bothers them out of this whole exchange is that they missed their bargaining chip. Their only path to victory, just like every enemy we've faced since WWII, is political unrest and disapproval of the war within the US. It's more a war of political attrition than men / infrastructure IMO. Their sole achievable objective here is make Trump look stupid enough to back him down.
Unless, as I said earlier, they are legitimately stupid. Which I guess is also possible but I don't think very likely. They can't be that dumb.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:42 am to DarthRebel
A human life is priceless. That is why we should not send our troops to die in Iran
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:50 am to DarthRebel
They lost their shot at a hostage to parade in front of CNN cameras, and now have a looming deadline for another pummeling.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:51 am to DarthRebel
quote:do they really though?
and now Iran wants peace
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:51 am to GeauxZone90
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A human life is priceless. That is why we should not send our troops to die in Iran
A life isn't priceless to them. They were gunning down their own citizens in the streets recently. Probably still are.
North Vietnam wrote the playbook on how to "beat" the United States. It can't be done with a uniformed state sponsored military right now. Look at what happened to Iraq's army in the 90's. They were a legitimate fighting force and in military terms it was an instantaneous crushing and complete defeat. All you can do is outlast the American public's support for the war, which isn't all that difficult to do these days. Truth be told us getting the WSO may have helped Iran more than hurt them. Had they captured him, they wouldn't have been able to help themselves from make a publicity stunt of it and possibly getting the American public wound up to go boots on ground frick shite up mode.
Them pursing a cease fire is extremely weird, and I wouldn't give it to them without exile and a clear plan in place for establishing a constitutional republic or constitutional monarchy.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:51 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Our ability to project power is absurd. Our ability to kick any uniformed state sponsored military's shite in is absurd. We are fricking good. I think Iran already knew that, and what we did probably was no surprise to them.
All true.
But the part that got left out is ground wars. History shows we aren't very good at them. I think a part of that is because we try playing by rules that the enemy doesn't abide by, and it often costs us. I do not want to see a full-scale ground war in Iran, but I do believe that some amount of ground action will be necessary. And we will likely suffer some casualties along the way.
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