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re: A question for the supporters of "use a national emergency and military for wall"
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:58 am to Roaad
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:58 am to Roaad
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Dems think the same way about their agenda vs GOP
AOC thinks the world will end in 12 years if we don't combat climate change. She'd definitely declare a national emergency to fight it if she became president.
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Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:59 am to Roaad
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Dems think the same way about their agenda vs GOP
Well, the left is fighting to kill infants in the womb up until birth, the right wants to build a wall to protect it's citizens from a foreign invasion.
The difference between the two isn't obvious?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:05 am to Smeg
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You're insane to think the Democrats aren't going to go completely buckwild once they get power again anyway. They aren't worried about us setting a precedent first. New York just legalized abortion up to the 9th month! Just wait until these libs get some power. The important thing is to stack the courts, like the Supreme Court, to cut them off before they get back. 6-3, 7-2 conservative majority will protect us for decades.
Re the NY abortion thing...heard a commentary this morn re an abortion doctor who bailed and made a Documentary named "The Scream". Has anybody watched this movie. Spoke to the pain that the 'child' feels in the womb, when ki...'aborted'.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:07 am to Nguyener
While I agree with your OP in principle I think the socialism aspect is coming regardless and we need to take what we can now
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:08 am to Boatshoes
quote:Texas is going blue. There is nothing the right can do at this point. Wall or no wall
there is no wall, the country is lost anyway.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:11 am to Nguyener
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Do you want a fascist revolution for socialism?
Absolutely. What you call a "fascist revolution", I call open season on leftists with no bag limit.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:11 am to Nguyener
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All of you blind lock step followers sicken me. You're literally no better than the dems who refused to criticize Obama. Stop sinking to the level of the left. Rise above that and be better.
Except we've tried that for 30 years and the Dems keep making more and more headway. Sometimes you just have to get in the dirt with them and beat them at their own game. Sometimes the ends really do justify the means.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:13 am to TTIOT
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Sometimes you just have to get in the dirt with them and beat them at their own game. Sometimes the ends really do justify the means.
Yikes
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:15 am to Nguyener
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Trump declaring a national emergency and mobilizing the military to carry out a highly contested campaign promise is something I will absolutely never support.
AMF!
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:16 am to Nguyener
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set the precedent
Tell me a time when precedent has stopped DEMOCRATs from doing that they really wanted to do??
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If that's what we've come to then this country is already lost and it's time for revolution.
This country has been lost for over 20 years now - I see something like this as a last gasp to try and drag it out of the abyss. If we do NOT do something drastic there will be no hope to just try "outvoting" the welfare dregs and imported cultures.
quote:Force me to pick one or the other, and I'll chose "not socialism" every time.
Do you want a fascist revolution for socialism? Because that's how you get one.
The last time I wholeheartedly supported a candidate with emotional and principled reasons was Reagan in his 2nd term - First term I merely voted agains Carter. Came to love the man like my father during his tenure.
EVERY.OTHER.VOTE has been more to STOP a greater evil.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:16 am to Nguyener
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Yikes
Oh yeah because doing it your way the last 30 years has been so successful. Please tell me what about getting in the dirt with them and beating them at their own game is so wrong?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:17 am to Nguyener
Use a NE ti get the funds and get the border states to use national guards from those states to assist in the border.
Make all new national gaurd members do a stint on the boarder.
Make all new national gaurd members do a stint on the boarder.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:21 am to Nguyener
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Yikes
Let me remind you, during the Revolutionary War, the British soldiers couldn't compete against the revolutionaries. Marching in formation, in their bright red coats, they were mowed down by the patriots hiding behind obstacles.
I'm sure as they continued to march in line, getting picked off, they kept repeating to themselves "this isn't fair, but at least we're fighting the right way."
They lost. That's the bottom line.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:23 am to Smeg
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Let me remind you, during the Revolutionary War, the British soldiers couldn't compete against the revolutionaries. Marching in formation, in their bright red coats, they were mowed down by the patriots hiding behind obstacles.
I'm sure as they continued to march in line, getting picked off, they kept repeating to themselves "this isn't fair, but at least we're fighting the right way."
They lost. That's the bottom line.
Exactly Smeg, great example. If we listen to this guy he wants Conservatives marching in formation just like the British while the Liberals are in the bushes picking us off one by one. At the end of the day this is about the future of this country, it's about winning or losing. We need to do what it takes to win and if that means getting in the weeds and picking the Liberals off one by one instead of standing in formation than lets do it.
So many Conservatives are still trying to be civil with Liberals when they have even admitted they have no desire to be civil. In many ways Liberals are using guerrilla warfare tactics and we need to use the same.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:26 am to Nguyener
The NUMBER ONE reason for the states to pull together in a union is for the common defense, that's defending the frontiers and the nation at large from foreign invasion.
I AGREE that using the emergency powers should be done only in very rare circumstances but I'm saying that at this moment those circumstances are upon us.
If wave after wave of thousands of unknowns crossing into the nation don't meet the test, then nothing does and we might as well dissolve the union.
I AGREE that using the emergency powers should be done only in very rare circumstances but I'm saying that at this moment those circumstances are upon us.
If wave after wave of thousands of unknowns crossing into the nation don't meet the test, then nothing does and we might as well dissolve the union.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:28 am to Smeg
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Let me remind you, during the Revolutionary War, the British soldiers couldn't compete against the revolutionaries. Marching in formation, in their bright red coats, they were mowed down by the patriots hiding behind obstacles.
I'm sure as they continued to march in line, getting picked off, they kept repeating to themselves "this isn't fair, but at least we're fighting the right way."
There are so many things wrong with that analogy I don't even know where to begin
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:29 am to Nguyener
quote:Damn, you sound positively libertarian.
A question for the supporters of "use a national emergency and military for wall"
Do you want a fascist revolution for socialism? Because that's how you get one.
This is a prime example of government overreach and abuse of power.
Kudos and an upvote.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:29 am to Nguyener
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There are so many things wrong with that analogy I don't even know where to begin
Since you are so much smarter than us simpletons why don't you begin then? Please tell us where we're wrong.
Again Nguyener you are trying to be civil with people who have absolutely decided not to be civil. Your method is the method that has gotten conservatism where it is today, on its death bed.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:30 am to Nguyener
The other side would take this action and not think twice about it in executing their miss guided vision for devaluing America. So, you advocating taking no action with the thought that doing so would somehow keep the other side from ever taking emergency action is simply wrong. We are in a bitter fight here. There is no decency in the left. The other side will stop at nothing to get what they want....that is what you are fighting against.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 8:32 am to weptiger
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The other side would take this action and not think twice about it in executing their miss guided vision for devaluing America. So, you advocating taking no action with the thought that doing so would somehow keep the other side from ever taking emergency action is simply wrong. We are in a bitter fight here. There is no decency in the left. The other side will stop at nothing to get what they want....that is what you are fighting against.
Yep and this is what Nguyener doesn't get. He's looking at this as simple politics, it isn't. We are fighting for our survival. We are fighting for the future of this country. In some ways we could be fighting for our very lives.
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