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A question for the supporters of "use a national emergency and military for wall"
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:47 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:47 am
Do you want a fascist revolution for socialism? Because that's how you get one.
This is a prime example of government overreach and abuse of power.
Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda?
That's a terrifying and un-American thought. And it shouldn't be allowed to happen. If that's what we've come to then this country is already lost and it's time for revolution.
Frankly, so many of you supporting this notion is insane to me. Is screams short sitedness and emotional.
This is a prime example of government overreach and abuse of power.
Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda?
That's a terrifying and un-American thought. And it shouldn't be allowed to happen. If that's what we've come to then this country is already lost and it's time for revolution.
Frankly, so many of you supporting this notion is insane to me. Is screams short sitedness and emotional.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 6:52 am
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Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:51 am to Nguyener
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Do you want a fascist revolution for socialism? Because that's how you get one. Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda? That's a terrifying and un-American thought. And it shouldn't be allowed to happen. If that's what we've come to then this country is already lost and it's time for revolution.
It certainly sets a dangerous precedent.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:51 am to Nguyener
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Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda?
So the other 42 times a President declared a National Emergency to carry out his political agenda set no precedence but this will make us Nazis... got it
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:53 am to Nguyener
If there is no wall, the country is lost anyway. If a dem president tries it, we have the guns. The Subaru drivers don't.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:55 am to Nguyener
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Nguyener
I agree with you , but if he caves in three weeks it will be worse than using a national emergency.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 6:59 am to 93and99
I agree with the other responses, if we don't get a wall then this country is over anyway. And President's have used "National Emergencies" before and we didn't become fascist.
At this point I'm willing to take the chance. It may be the only way to potentially save the country.
At this point I'm willing to take the chance. It may be the only way to potentially save the country.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:01 am to Nguyener
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Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda?
Would it be implementing one of the central planks of the platform upon which he or she was democratically elected?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:02 am to Nguyener
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Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda?
What makes you think the Left will wait for precedent? BHO started with his pen and EO’s. FDR tried stacking the court, just as current 2020 Dem Presidential hopefuls are already suggesting. This fight has already begun and it didn’t start with Trump.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:03 am to ynlvr
Exactly, the libs are gonna do it anyway so we might as well get in front of it.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:05 am to Nguyener
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Do you want a fascist revolution for socialism? Because that's how you get one.
At this point, I'm praying for one. Winning it seems to be the only way to take this country back from the morons.
And we have all the guns.
Just waiting on the first shots to be fired.
Oh, when do you guys plan to start "Inpeach Foty-Fie" proceedings?
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:08 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:05 am to Nguyener
Is it not a national crisis?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:06 am to Nguyener
While I see your point, is the porous southern border not a major national security concern?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:07 am to More&Les
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So the other 42 times a President declared a National Emergency to carry out his political agenda set no precedence but this will make us Nazis... got it
So you characterize declaring national emergencies for funding hurricane disasters in the same light as declaring a national emergency to build a border wall?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:07 am to Nguyener
When President Trump decrares a national emergency to secure the southern border he will do so under the authority already granted by congress:
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The National Emergencies Act (NEA) (Pub.L. 94–412, 90 Stat. 1255, enacted September 14, 1976, codified at 50 U.S.C. § 1601–1651) is a United States federal law passed to stop open-ended states of national emergency and formalize the power of Congress to provide certain checks and balances on the emergency powers of the President.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:07 am to Nguyener
I don't necessarily support using national emergency but I also don't find the fear of what the Democrats would do later on to be very compelling
Nothing in the history of the United States indicates that if the Republicans don't do a thing that's on the table the Democrats feel obligated to follow suit.
Nothing in the history of the United States indicates that if the Republicans don't do a thing that's on the table the Democrats feel obligated to follow suit.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:08 am to ynlvr
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What makes you think the Left will wait for precedent? BHO started with his pen and EO’s. FDR tried stacking the court, just as current 2020 Dem Presidential hopefuls are already suggesting. This fight has already begun and it didn’t start with Trump.
You do not surrender your principles because your opponent surrendered his. That's not right. There are other ways to beat the dems.
I will gladly die to defend my principles before I compromise them.
Those of you supporting using the military to carry out a domestic political agenda can't see the precedent that sets. And you will be the first to complain when the dems use the military for their own purposes.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:09 am to Revelator
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So you characterize declaring national emergencies for funding hurricane disasters in the same light as declaring a national emergency to build a border wall?
Not me. I would assert the latter is much closer to a true constitutional duty of the federal executive than the former.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:10 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:09 am to Nguyener
You might be right if we were playing a fair game.
there are issues in politics today which are moving us closer to fascism but the border wall isn’t it. Not even top 10.
Keep in mind, he was elected to build the wall by a mandate from the people. He is being stymied by fascists who are completely self motivated who are championed by a press who acts in the best interest of the deep state which owns it.
there are issues in politics today which are moving us closer to fascism but the border wall isn’t it. Not even top 10.
Keep in mind, he was elected to build the wall by a mandate from the people. He is being stymied by fascists who are completely self motivated who are championed by a press who acts in the best interest of the deep state which owns it.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:09 am to Nguyener
I completely agree with you folks who think this would set a dangerous precedent but what I am thinking is the next time we have a democrat president they are probably going to do it anyway whether Trump does or not.
These are weird times we are living in and many precedents are going to be set
These are weird times we are living in and many precedents are going to be set
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:09 am to Boatshoes
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If there is no wall, the country is lost anyway. If a dem president tries it, we have the guns. The Subaru drivers don't.
Good thing President Trump is not declaring a national emergency that infringes upon your constitutional rights.
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