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re: 74% of Democrats, Majority of Americans Support Single-Payer Health Care System
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:08 am to Ebbandflow
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:08 am to Ebbandflow
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Are you just assuming every brand or company that makes hypodermic needles or MRI machines would suddenly become part of the government?
Pray tell. What percentage of medical advances and innovation come from countries with socialized Healthcare?
Why do you think this is?
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:08 am to Tigerdev
quote:America spends more per capita in GOVERNMENT dollars on healthcare than every nation but norway.
The private industry has failed us on this issue. Life and death plus profit motive is clearly a poor match for any thinking person.
Something like 40% of Americans are on a publically funded insurance plan.
The insurance industry itself is one of the most regulated of any industry in the nation, and the AMA is essentially a government-protected cartel that restricts the supply of doctors.
We do not have free market healthcare. Saying so is to ignore basic facts about our system.
Furthermore, health insurance profits are not even top 25 of most profitable industries in America.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:09 am to Ebbandflow
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Hell yes. we'll be under socialized medicine in less than 20 years.
Walk me through why you would ever think this is a good idea.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:16 am to Tigerdev
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individual bankruptcies compared to other wealthy nations?
FWIW, the data that shows medical costs being a huge cause of bankruptcies have been debunked.
Surprising that an "intellectual" like yourself isn't up to date on the most modern iterations of the research.
LINK
Previous estimates (done by elizabeth warren while at harvard, lol) pegged that 50% of all bankruptcies in America are caused by medical debt. The correct anyswer, using more statistically robust methods, is 4%. Bankruptcy trends since the Obamacare exchanges become available do not point to any causal decrease in bankruptcies.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:17 am to Bench McElroy
All you do is post articles with no comment. That's worthless. And, your story is bullshite.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Our divided government prevents us from committing to smart programs that make sense in both healthcare and education. We have a party that's entire platform is predicated on proving programs fail. Given that we swing in 4 to 12 year increments are you actually surprised that the self fulfilling prophecy comes true? Other countries make it work in the absence of anti-government fundamentalists
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:18 am to Ebbandflow
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Hell yes. we'll be under socialized medicine in less than 20 years
Yah for shittier cancer survival rates!!!
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:18 am to Bench McElroy
Can we get how many of them support superstring theory?
Because they have just about as much knowledge of that.
Because they have just about as much knowledge of that.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:18 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:He's poor and wants free shite, no matter the low quality.
Walk me through why you would ever think this is a good idea.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:20 am to Bench McElroy
That majority can't even articulate what a single payer system actually is. So, bullshite
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Are we the only people awake on here? I'm in DC on travel. What you up to sir?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:25 am to Tigerdev
quote:Don't laugh.....
What you up to sir?
I am reading a Halo (video game) novel. It's actually an incredibly interesting saga and the good people on the gaming board told me it was the only set of halo novels worth reading. Basically sets up the entire history of the halo universe. Greg Bear is the author.....he is well known for science fiction novels.
It really isn't a kids set of books at all.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Lol gay
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:27 am to Bench McElroy
So 74% of Democrats andamajority of Americans are imbeciles. Makes me glad to know I live in a republic.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:27 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Nice. Not read those but my guilty pleasure is horror. I'm eating nachos at a bar ATM but soon I'll be back to The Ghost House by Peter Straub
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:28 am to Bench McElroy
Go frick yourself, you sorry sack of shite!
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:44 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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85% of Americans are fine with their personal health care situation.
People being ignorant to how much better things could be is not a very impressive argument.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 12:46 am
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:47 am to Bench McElroy
I wonder if you changed the name from SINGLE-Payer to Government Run Healthcare what the numbers would be.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 1:30 am to Ebbandflow
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We would still have that
No we wouldn’t. You mentioned mri machines a few posts ago. In 1997 I was living in Canada - the wait in my province for an MRI was 14 weeks. You know why? At that time the country of Canada had less MRI machines then Pittsburgh. Entire country less than Pittsburgh.
If we bought equipment at the rates of the socialized countries - innovation is dead. No point in innovating if you have so few customers.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 1:31 am to Bench McElroy
Breaking News: people want free shite
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