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Posted on 12/8/18 at 6:55 am to Bill Parker?
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35 Whelen is a great weapon, period. If you hunt in a state that has a "primitive weapon" season, you should own one.
FWIW I’ve never heard of being able to use a cartridged rifle in a primitive season until a couple years ago on this board, this is extremely rare. The vast majority of states are muzzleloader only and some are even primitive muzzleloaders and go so far as no in line guns or no scopes.
Given that, while you can shoot open sights past 60 or yards I’m not a fan hunting with them that far. Just too much room for error. 12 or 20 gauge rifled slug gun is a heck of a good brush gun and plenty accurate out to 120 yards or so. If you are looking at hunting a gun season from a bow stand I’d go open sights all day long with shots under 50, but if you are likely looking at 50-100 yard shots I’d prefer a scope.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:01 am to baldona
Not a fan at all with a slug shotgun unless one has a slug barrel. Now my first real deer slayer is a 870 WM 30" full 3" mag. Dropped many deer out to 60 yards with 00 buckshot. 
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:08 am to baldona
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Given that, while you can shoot open sights past 60 or yards I’m not a fan hunting with them that far.
WTF?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:17 am to cave canem
I was going to address that too! But he might have shitty eye sight. 
Hell, with open sights, with a M16, at 500 yards taking out a target was never a problem.
Hell, with open sights, with a M16, at 500 yards taking out a target was never a problem.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:21 am to fishfighter
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Hell, with open sights, with a M16, at 500 yards taking out a target was never a problem.
Then why do some of y'all insist on paying $10,000 for a rifle scope.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:33 am to aut5150
Marlin 336 30-30. Follow me through the woods, and you'll understand
Eta: You wanna mess around and do all kinds of fancy stuff with a new rifle. How about shoot what's been working for 100+ years
Eta: You wanna mess around and do all kinds of fancy stuff with a new rifle. How about shoot what's been working for 100+ years
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 7:38 am
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:39 am to upgrade
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Then why do some of y'all insist on paying $10,000 for a rifle scope.
Because it is a status symbol just like all Veblen goods.
quote:
Veblen goods are types of luxury goods for which the quantity demanded increases as the price increases, an apparent contradiction of the law of demand, resulting in an upward-sloping demand curve. Some goods become more desirable because of their high prices. For example, in the 1990s when "fashion" jeans became popular, one retailer was able to sell more after raising the price. A higher price may make a product desirable as a status symbol in the practices of conspicuous consumption and conspicuous leisure. A product may be a Veblen good because it is a positional good, something few others can own.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:42 am to aut5150
Whatever the shortest barreled rifle you have is. I usually use my .30-30 because the gun is so short and handy. A low zoom scope (2-7) or open sights is very nice to have. You dont want to be swinging a 26" barreled 7 mag with a 6-24x scope on it at a deer 20 yards away. My .30-30 had a 2-7 scope forever, now it has a peep sight. Since my tikka is so light and I have a 2.5-8 scope on it, it's kind of unseated my .30-30 for when I hunt a stand in the thick stuff. The scope helps late in the evening.
I hunt with my shotgun and buckshot pretty often as well. The new federal flite control stuff is a game changer the patterns out to 50 yards are fantastic. Inside of 40 yards buckshot is great but it goes to shite quickly after that.
As far as being able to shoot through shite, theres no real answer to that. The idea that a big slow moving bullet is deflected less by obstructions is flawed. A bullet that hits something half way there is going to end up on some random path every time.
I hunt with my shotgun and buckshot pretty often as well. The new federal flite control stuff is a game changer the patterns out to 50 yards are fantastic. Inside of 40 yards buckshot is great but it goes to shite quickly after that.
As far as being able to shoot through shite, theres no real answer to that. The idea that a big slow moving bullet is deflected less by obstructions is flawed. A bullet that hits something half way there is going to end up on some random path every time.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 7:45 am
Posted on 12/8/18 at 7:59 am to aut5150
Many deer have hit the ground in heavy timber using my Wingmaster and 00 buck.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:02 am to aut5150
.444 Marlin
.35 Whelen
.35 Rem
.45-70
.30-30
.35 Whelen
.35 Rem
.45-70
.30-30
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:04 am to DaBeerz
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44 mag hollow points
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:17 am to aut5150
.243 is the answer. Plows thru brush like a bull dozer and devastates it’s target.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:30 am to baldona
Mississippi has been allowing primitive cartridge weapons close to 10 years, maybe more. I hunt with a Handi Rifle in 35 and my wife Uses one in 45/70.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:31 am to LSUballs
.270 or .30-06, f a .30-03 pop gun.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:33 am to White Bear
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f a .30-03 pop gun.
I don't think anyone uses these anymore
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:33 am to LSUballs
Better chance that slinder bullet gets through brush than a wider bullet. All about missing limbs, etc.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:33 am to pdubya76
Mississippi is all about the revenue, and proved that by allowing “weapon of choice” during primitive weapon season.......”with the appropriate license”
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:34 am to Clames
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.50 BMG with APIT rounds.
I was going to make the same smart @$$ comment. lol.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:50 am to Tigerpaw123
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Mississippi is all about the revenue, and proved that by allowing “weapon of choice” during primitive weapon season.......”with the appropriate license”
MS is all about managing herd size, sorry you missed the memo.
They will increase and decrease opportunity by zones as management dictates, it has frick all to do with a incremental increase in sales of a $15 lisc.
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