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Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:56 pm to Ol boy
Agree with everything you said, the 6.5 gets a bad rap because over the years a few guys swear it’s a grizzly caliber! I could take it or leave it. You are right by saying any of those calibers loaded with partitions is the way to go.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:16 am to Cash
Go with a .243 or 25-06 usin Federal Premium Sierra Gameking BTSP. Deadly on whitetail deer.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 1:19 am
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:20 am to DeoreDX
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Curious on the downvotes because of the caliber or the AR platform? 6.5G lies somewhere between the 30-30 and 243. Plenty for southern white tail inside 250 yards. AR platform is cheap and highly customizable so you know the rifle will always fit. My son has been shooting his since he was 11 and can tear up the 6" steel plate at 100 yards with cheap Wolf ammo.
Probably because it’s not a tikka bolt gun.
Seriously though you are dead on. I have my 6 year old shooting a AR in 6.5 grendel with a 3x Leupold red dot on top. He smashes hogs with it and has zero issues with shooting it due to recoil.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:28 am to boudinman
My kids have a Ruger American Compact in 7mm-08. My 2 older kids have both already killed deer with it. (and I have too 
) They use the Hornady 120gr Custom Lite reduced recoil rounds and I shoot 140gr Remington Core Lokt.
Another great round for whitetail is 25-06. My dad gave my son a Mossberg Patriot 25-06 that he won in a raffle. It was a full size gun so my son continued to shoot the 7mm-08 but I decided to try it out. Very low recoil and just seems so smooth. I am shooting the Sierra Gameking rounds out of it and they have been deadly so far on hogs and deer.
) They use the Hornady 120gr Custom Lite reduced recoil rounds and I shoot 140gr Remington Core Lokt. Another great round for whitetail is 25-06. My dad gave my son a Mossberg Patriot 25-06 that he won in a raffle. It was a full size gun so my son continued to shoot the 7mm-08 but I decided to try it out. Very low recoil and just seems so smooth. I am shooting the Sierra Gameking rounds out of it and they have been deadly so far on hogs and deer.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 7:42 am to Cash
308 with reduced recoil rounds. My son currently has aSavage in 308. I bought him a cheap 243 before that. The 308 is easier to shoot and is a better round. And you can use 308 as long as he wants
Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:05 am to Catahoula20LSU
reggo,
My kids have a Ruger American Compact in 7mm-08. My 2 older kids have both already killed deer with it. (and I have too ) They use the Hornady 120gr Custom Lite reduced recoil rounds and I shoot 140gr Remington Core Lokt.
Do you shoot both grains out of same gun?
reason I am asking I have same gun for my kids, its sighted in with 120, but I just bought the 140gr. Have not had a chance to see the difference
My kids have a Ruger American Compact in 7mm-08. My 2 older kids have both already killed deer with it. (and I have too ) They use the Hornady 120gr Custom Lite reduced recoil rounds and I shoot 140gr Remington Core Lokt.
Do you shoot both grains out of same gun?
reason I am asking I have same gun for my kids, its sighted in with 120, but I just bought the 140gr. Have not had a chance to see the difference
Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:22 am to DeoreDX
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AR platform is cheap and highly customizable so you know the rifle will always fit.
Even though a bit heavier, the same is true for AR10s.
Chatrabbit’s cousin killed her first deer with my Aero 308. I’ve found an AR10 in 308 recoils as much or less than a 20 gauge. Of course, if you hate your eardrums you can reduce the recoil even more
. Anything semi auto will have less felt recoil than something with a locked bolt. 
Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:20 am to Cash
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I don't want something he will grow out of in 2-3 years
you don't "outgrow" a rifle. They aren't boots.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:53 am to LoneStarTiger
I think he means youth model guns with shorter length of pulls...
Posted on 10/16/20 at 10:20 am to DeoreDX
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AR in 6.5 Grendel
Adjustable LOP, no kick, quiet.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:11 pm to Cash
Well, you don't grow out of a cartridge so I wouldn't worry about that. At 14 my first rifle was a Model 700 Remington Mountain Rifle chambered in .280 Remington. I still hunt with it to this day. The rifle itself is light but not ultralight. It was perfect for my 150# self back then and my 200# self now. The Model 700 Mountain Rifle is not a budget rifle but due to its size and weight it is a great choice for a younger hunter.
Anyway, of the 3 you mentioned the 7mm-08 would be the best choice. Stay with at least 140 grain bullets no matter which one you pick. The .260 Remington is another great choice in that realm of offerings.
I would always recommend the .280 Remington as well. It would make the best sense long term due to its versatility. I never found it to be a particularly hard kicker, and it is superior on paper and real life to the .270 Winchester. This is mainly due to the .280 Remington having a 7mm bullet which is known to hold together better and penetrate deeper the the .277" diameter bullet the .270 uses. The .280 also has a very slight case volume advantage over the .270 as well.
Anyway, of the 3 you mentioned the 7mm-08 would be the best choice. Stay with at least 140 grain bullets no matter which one you pick. The .260 Remington is another great choice in that realm of offerings.
I would always recommend the .280 Remington as well. It would make the best sense long term due to its versatility. I never found it to be a particularly hard kicker, and it is superior on paper and real life to the .270 Winchester. This is mainly due to the .280 Remington having a 7mm bullet which is known to hold together better and penetrate deeper the the .277" diameter bullet the .270 uses. The .280 also has a very slight case volume advantage over the .270 as well.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:24 pm to Stexas
Because of a lack of passthroughs. I would never recommend that gun to a kid when there are so many better offerings. It is fine for an experienced adult that can use shot placement to drop the deer he shoots. Kids hit the things all over the place and you need an exit wound or a large enough energy dump so that the deer dies quicker.
Between guiding and my hunting clubs, I have been on so many deer recovery's where the deer was never found it makes me hate the .243 cartridge.
Your safest bet for medium to larger sized deer is something that can shoot a least a 140 grain bullet at a moderate speed. The .243 can't do that.
Between guiding and my hunting clubs, I have been on so many deer recovery's where the deer was never found it makes me hate the .243 cartridge.
Your safest bet for medium to larger sized deer is something that can shoot a least a 140 grain bullet at a moderate speed. The .243 can't do that.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:09 pm to Cash
7mm-08.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:11 pm to Kingpenm3
What rail wrap is that?
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:26 pm to mrcoon
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This is mainly due to the .280 Remington having a 7mm bullet which is known to hold together better and penetrate deeper the the .277" diameter bullet the .270 uses.
The 270 Winchester uses a 6.8mm bullet. I don’t think that 0.2mm is the main difference maker for your point about penetration - likely has more to do with bullet weight.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 3:18 pm to mrcoon
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This is mainly due to the .280 Remington having a 7mm bullet which is known to hold together better and penetrate deeper the the .277" diameter bullet the .270 uses. The .280 also has a very slight case volume advantage over the .270 as well.
There is so many things inaccurate about this post.
the bullet itself will determine penetration. The .270 is traveling at basically the same speed as the .280 with comparable bullet (type, weights). The penetration difference would be negligible.
The .270 case actually has a higher case capacity although insignificant amount:
62.5 gr water in the .280
62.8 gr water in the .270
Posted on 10/16/20 at 3:30 pm to Cash
7-08
Posted on 10/16/20 at 4:02 pm to bbvdd
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There is so many things inaccurate about this post.
In a discussion that involves "which caliber"? You don't say.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 4:08 pm to Flats
I didn’t even go into his recommended firearm....
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