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re: Your car is secretly spying on you and driving your insurance rates through the roof

Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:50 am to
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
312 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:50 am to
I have had state farm, and progressive, and gieco devices in my vehicle when insured with each. Monitoring cornering, braking, acceleration, speeding, and hand phone use....
I hated it until it changed my thinking and improved my driving habits...

Gives discounts for higher scores.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8085 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:52 am to
I wonder if there are enough older daily drivers that will make the government and insurance companies try to eliminate them. No CPU and no cell phone crimps their tracking efforts.
Posted by aruss15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
577 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:59 am to
You might wanna get that thing checked out
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81646 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:00 am to
I do this voluntarily to get discounts.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167294 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:01 am to
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I wonder if there are enough older daily drivers that will make the government and insurance companies try to eliminate them


What do you think Obama's cash for clunkers was truly about?
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2955 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:04 am to
State Farm is pushing this nonsense and saying that if you use it your rates will be lower. There is no way on God's green earth that I would voluntarily allow them to catalog driving data on anyone in my family and all of my cars are older so as of now, they cannot. I know its coming for everyone at some point, but man this is really shitty in a long line of shittiness
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:04 am to
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secretly spying
That's not what the link you posted says.

The car owners paid for a subscription service which monitors and reports their driving habits.

Cancel the service and problem solved, right?
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6850 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:08 am to
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don't see the Hellcat drivers bitching about this.


You have to have insurance for insurance rates to matter


Making more than 1 or 2 payments helps too!

Repo lots are FULL of them.

Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16417 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:09 am to
quote:

A Cadillac driver based in Palm Beach County, Fla., told the Times that he is considering a lawsuit against GM after he was denied car insurance by seven different companies in December.

There is definitely more to the story than a few hard brakes, hard accelerations, and speeding here.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8085 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:12 am to
Yeah, a lot of perfectly good vehicles were scrapped under that scheme. In addition, I suppose insurance companies will raise the rates on those vehicles. We all know rates will only increase in the long run.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17937 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:16 am to
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What do you think Obama's cash for clunkers was truly about?

Bought my work tundra during that era, but didn't do the cash for clunkers since we paid cash. It has a cd player and aux plug, no bluetooth or interwebz capabilities.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:22 am to
Not mine. 2011 Dodge Dakota truck. The only upgrade is leather seats.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:23 am to
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I hated it until it changed my thinking and improved my driving habits...
quote:

ChatGPT of TD


checks out
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3815 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:24 am to
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No, it is the unlicensed drivers of altimas and chargers and the soccer moms who drive in the left lane that are driving up my rates. Oh and shout out to the plaintiffs bar and Gordon et al.


This. I am a reasonably safe driver that gets a speeding ticket every 5-10 years. If I slowed down from 55 to 40 a few years ago, would it make me any safer? Maybe.

Would it make me any safer if the uninsured/underinsurd clapped out Altimas and Chargers quit driving 100mph around Orleans Parish? Yes x1000%. I have had a car totaled due to hit-and-run.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48389 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:27 am to
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Injury attorneys are the main reason for insurance cost increases.


Yes. This is common knowledge by now.

But the personal injury plaintiff industry has a powerful lobby at all levels of Govt and they work to protect their jobs.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3263 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:33 am to
I do the State Farm Dive Safe & Save. My only complaint has been that I get dinged for speeding when I definitely was not. For example, last week it had me going 70 in a 45 on my way home from work. There’s no way I was going that fast and there’s no way to dispute it
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83937 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 9:35 am to
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t will soon be time to go the Cuba route and drive old cars until you can no longer find parts


Wouldn’t do you any good as insurance companies are starting to require drivers to give permission for the company to track their driving habits via their cellphone
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:01 am to
I report the information to my insurance company, and it actually lowered my insurance by quite a bit. I work from home and my wife only works 3 miles from home, so we don't put a ton of miles on our vehicles. We also don't drive like assholes, so it works in our favor.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:03 am to
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There is no way on God's green earth that I would voluntarily allow them to catalog driving data on anyone in my family

Are y'all really that bad of drivers?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61272 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:07 am to
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This does seem like complete BS and very arbitrary from the insurance company's POV. What if I break hard because a stroller rolled into the street? Does that make me a bad driver worthy of price hikes?

My main issue is that the report specifically pointed out a singular 18 minute trip. A person has one bad day or is running late once and its evidence they are always a bad driver?



Ideally you could have something like a dash cam to verify that situation to the insurance company. Unless they provide an easy way to dispute their claims then I want no part of it.
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