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re: WWTOTD - Completely shafted for a raise
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:14 am to el duderino III
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:14 am to el duderino III
There's basically 2 kinds of jobs in this world:
1. Ones that reward you quickly both financially and through appreciation
2. All others
You know you are or are not in 1. If you aren't and you want to work hard to get to 1, then keep applying and looking for a new job until it is 1.
1. Ones that reward you quickly both financially and through appreciation
2. All others
You know you are or are not in 1. If you aren't and you want to work hard to get to 1, then keep applying and looking for a new job until it is 1.
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Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:17 am to el duderino III
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doing the jobs of several managers without being asked to.
No good deed goes unpunished. Happened to me several times. Seems to it doesn't pay to be the good guy.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:20 am to el duderino III
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me leaving would make all their lives substantially worse, including my boss. he's just too distant from the process to even be aware of it
Do not get your employees to chime in for you. It will not look good. And don't tell them about your quest for a raise etc.
Don't worry about your boss. You don't get paid to worry about him. Take care of yourself.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:30 am to el duderino III
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actually I was getting 68k, less than the median for my title and experience level
You need to learn how to negotiate and/or have low self esteem. You chose to take a position paying less than median.
Also, "I was getting paid"? Is this something that happened in another job, or did you quit already?
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doing the jobs of several managers without being asked to.
You should either have backed off, or sat down before making all the process changes and lay out what you were going to do. You should have laid out a compensation plan for benchmarks hit, and a compensation agreement for your anniversary date.
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it was the fact that my work was deemed worth absolutely nothing
If you are capable as you claim you can show verifiable proof of the value you bring to the company, and present it to your manager. If he is not sure seek an opportunity to show the VP.
You have failed in many ways on the front end.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:31 am to el duderino III
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He actually said, well, you dont have the points for a raise outright, but I can put in a request for a 3% raise, but I dont know if that will be approved by the VP.
This isn't too bad. Probably all he can do at this point.
Seems you've demonstrated some worth but, as others pointed out, that budget was laid out long ago. You may get a programmed raise early, or simply get a bump outright. But don't expect them to give a lot of cash out right now - they are wedded to that budget. It's their job and they would be negligent to be willy nilly with that budget.
Also, sounds like you want to be part of a team but you're actually part of a corporation right now. You might need to find a better fit.
See if your boss requests the 3% bump - it's better than nothing.
See if you get better offers somewhere else.
See if you can apply elsewhere within the same company for a legit promotion.
Don't let it get to you. Continue to do good work and then take care of yourself and take the best deal, in the best location, for the best pay that you can negotiate.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:34 am to el duderino III
Get a better offer and leverage it. Be prepared to walk though. Can't bluff and then fold.
Unless your boss is awesome he's never going to pay you more than he thinks he can get away with. So take the money and run. And be prepared for that to happen in this case. If he's that clueless then he's not going to see the real benefit of meeting your demands.
Unless your boss is awesome he's never going to pay you more than he thinks he can get away with. So take the money and run. And be prepared for that to happen in this case. If he's that clueless then he's not going to see the real benefit of meeting your demands.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 12:36 am
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:42 am to el duderino III
I know you are proud of your accomplishment but they put you in that sacrificial position for a reason.
You may prove to be a valuable employee but this is a reputation that is earned over time. You hit your first home run, not your 500th. There will be other opportunities, the corporate world is full of situations just like the one you encountered.
You may prove to be a valuable employee but this is a reputation that is earned over time. You hit your first home run, not your 500th. There will be other opportunities, the corporate world is full of situations just like the one you encountered.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:26 am to el duderino III
lifes not fair
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:32 am to el duderino III
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He is the IT Director over about 60 employees,
IF what you said about all your awesomeness is true, you should consider the possibility that he wants you to leave the company because he is intimidated by your competence.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:42 am to el duderino III
Your tldr needs a tldr. L2Interwebz.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:46 am to el duderino III
Have sex with the boss’s wife on his desk, and send the video of the act to everyone in the company.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:50 am to Spasweezy
Write out a list of your accomplishments vs. his expectations. Present it to him. Let him know you are doing so in order to receive a good letter of recommendation for your next job.
Explain to him what industry standard pay is. Let him know it is not personal when he gets upset.
Explain to him what industry standard pay is. Let him know it is not personal when he gets upset.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:54 am to el duderino III
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i wasn't asking for a "fat" raise, it was the fact that my work was deemed worth absolutely nothing.
Maybe I'm missing something...they hired you to do a specific job, and when you took the job you agreed to the compensation they offered.
Since that time, you have seemingly successfully handled the job.
Your take on the "optics" of the initial hire means nothing. You are doing what they hired you to do. The fact that you would even consider asking other employees to petition on your behalf tells me your grasp on the situation is likely somewhat distorted.
If you are so offended and can easily command your desired comp and title somewhere else, that sounds like your best bet.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:55 am to el duderino III
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TLDR version: I busted my arse, accomplished something my boss thought was nearly impossible, saved the company tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, and was rewarded with absolutely nothing for it. Do I leverage the army of support and vocal loyalty of the people I've improved things for, go over his head even? Or just say frick him and move on?
So, you are crying about doing your job that they were paying you to do in the first place.
Dam young people want a free ride in life.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 6:59 am to EarlyCuyler3
Leveraging an offer IMO is a horrible idea. You either need to leave or stay.
Why accept a raise when you're threatening to walk? Why does it take threatening to walk to get a raise? Are you going to threaten to walk again in 2 years when you feel you've earned another raise? Do you really want to work for that kind of company?
Why accept a raise when you're threatening to walk? Why does it take threatening to walk to get a raise? Are you going to threaten to walk again in 2 years when you feel you've earned another raise? Do you really want to work for that kind of company?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 7:11 am to el duderino III
So, you agreed to a salary. You did a job the was thought "an impossible task" and successfully completed and your boss agrees with this statement? Now you want a raise for doing what you were hired to do, but they aren't giving you a large enough one and you want to enlist fellow employees to campaign on your behalf?
So let me ask this question, if you deserve a raise for doing a great job, would it be fair if they take salary away when you don't do a good job or less of a job than you have over the last year?
What you should do is just start your own company and give everyone raises for every accomplishment!
So let me ask this question, if you deserve a raise for doing a great job, would it be fair if they take salary away when you don't do a good job or less of a job than you have over the last year?
What you should do is just start your own company and give everyone raises for every accomplishment!
Posted on 6/14/18 at 7:12 am to el duderino III
narcissism
noun nar·cis·sism \ 'när-s?-?si-z?m \
I’m sure life would go on. They’ll manage without you but thank you for your concern.
noun nar·cis·sism \ 'när-s?-?si-z?m \
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should I have my employees write to him to explain how fricked they would all be if I left?
I’m sure life would go on. They’ll manage without you but thank you for your concern.Posted on 6/14/18 at 7:15 am to el duderino III
If you feel this company doesn't pay you what your value is, find one who does. In Nashville alone we have over 1000 IT jobs we need filled, so if you can coherently detail what you've done, you should have no problem finding a job who financially compensates your expertise
Posted on 6/14/18 at 7:19 am to el duderino III
Update your resume' while what you've done is fresh on your mind, and emphasize the success story.
Find a better job using that updated resume'. If you want to tell your boss why you're leaving, ok, but I wouldn't go out of my way to help them any more.
Find a better job using that updated resume'. If you want to tell your boss why you're leaving, ok, but I wouldn't go out of my way to help them any more.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 7:25 am to el duderino III
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me leaving would make all their lives substantially worse, including my boss. he's just too distant from the process to even be aware of it
You don't seem to understand that everyone, everyone is replaceable. There's another guy out there just as smart or smarter than you who's willing to take your job. Get over your inflated view of yourself.
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