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re: WWTOTD - Completely shafted for a raise
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:40 am to lshuge
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:40 am to lshuge
Lol at anyone that says to shut up and do your job. You should always be pushing your employees to do better, which means they are always going to want more money. Unless you have some sort of bonus structure, profit sharing, commission, etc. then you should ALWAYS be trying to prove yourself as being worth more.
As a manager, you don't always have to offer more money right away. People understand budgets. But you can offer future opportunities with the company to earn more.
If as an employee you are trying to work hard to earn more, and your company doesn't have immediate solutions when you do well then you should be looking elsewhere.
I would never expect a supervisor or a CEO to be content with just getting by doing the same as last year. So an employee shouldn't expect the same from their employer.
As a manager, you don't always have to offer more money right away. People understand budgets. But you can offer future opportunities with the company to earn more.
If as an employee you are trying to work hard to earn more, and your company doesn't have immediate solutions when you do well then you should be looking elsewhere.
I would never expect a supervisor or a CEO to be content with just getting by doing the same as last year. So an employee shouldn't expect the same from their employer.
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Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:42 am to kjp811
You are expecting a raise after one year? fricking millennials.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:15 pm to Slagathor
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Y2K?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 12:35 pm to el duderino III
Hang on, what are you talking about? Don't I see people on here always talking about how as long as you show your worth to a company, they'll do right by you and you can demand whatever pay you want?
You mean it doesn't really work that way?
You mean it doesn't really work that way?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:48 pm to HubbaBubba
to HubbaBubba - email my junk account at rajincajin26 at yahoo. I'm looking at moving back to texas, but I'd be willing to live in any of the big 4 or houston, dallas, austin, or SA. Maybe even in other states depending on the fit/offer.
I'm basically a hybrid Data Systems BA/PM/SQL Developer, but my most valuable asset is being able to translate between technical and non-technical people, and get them to work together, which is something that none of my 3 bosses can even do.
But I'd certainly appreciate her looking into it and would be interested in whatever she could find if it's a good fit, regardless of city.
I'm basically a hybrid Data Systems BA/PM/SQL Developer, but my most valuable asset is being able to translate between technical and non-technical people, and get them to work together, which is something that none of my 3 bosses can even do.
But I'd certainly appreciate her looking into it and would be interested in whatever she could find if it's a good fit, regardless of city.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:56 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:This is absolutely what I should have done. I appreciate the insight.
You should either have backed off, or sat down before making all the process changes and lay out what you were going to do. You should have laid out a compensation plan for benchmarks hit, and a compensation agreement for your anniversary date.
quote:Well this was the weird part too - I politely voiced my surprise that the decision was so automatic, and asked if I could lay out the numbers in terms of value added to the processes I've improved and present them to my boss and the VP, but my his response to that was, "well sure, go ahead and put that in an email, and I'll talk to him (the VP, his boss) about it"
If you are capable as you claim you can show verifiable proof of the value you bring to the company, and present it to your manager. If he is not sure seek an opportunity to show the VP.
Would that indicate to you that my boss does receive some kind of bonus based on his teams compensation meeting budget?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:58 pm to el duderino III
Hey! If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like Frank Shirley, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-arse, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shite he is! Hallelujah! Holy shite! Where's the Tylenol?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:06 pm to ATLdawg25
quote:No, they didn't hire me for that specific job. They hired me, and then immediately assigned me to that job. On the first day I had lunch with my boss, the IT director, and the VP, and they joked about how difficult, combative, and stupid the "folks on the 4th floor" were. The level of dysfunction between the two departments was so severe that problem solving or any type of collaboration was borderline impossible.
Maybe I'm missing something...they hired you to do a specific job, and when you took the job you agreed to the compensation they offered.
Since that time, you have seemingly successfully handled the job.
So they did not hired me to "do a job". They hired me in the hopes that I could even make a marginal improvement, and instead I built a rapport, even friendship, with those "impossible people", and completely reversed the dynamic between the two departments.
In other words, I exceeded expectations beyond their wildest hopes, and was compensated with absolutely nothing. And now they want me to do the same thing with the other half of the business.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:02 pm to el duderino III
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and was compensated with absolutely nothing.
You did all that pro bono? Good for you!
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:03 pm to DrEdgeLSU
Not reading all this, but is OP whiny bitch?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:09 pm to el duderino III
You millennials are all so entitled
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:13 pm to el Gaucho
i'm 30 years old. I grew up without the internet, and my hardass of an old man put me to work doing manual labor at 12. I have been called many things in life, millennial has never been one of them
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:15 pm to el duderino III
quote:you have all the entitlement of a millineal
millennial has never been one of them
Sorry, but truth hurts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:38 pm to el duderino III
Well, you are In fact a millennial. Sorry.
And you didn’t grow up without the internet. It was mainstream by the mid 1990s.
Back to the point.... have you ever had a job before?
And you didn’t grow up without the internet. It was mainstream by the mid 1990s.
Back to the point.... have you ever had a job before?
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:44 pm to el duderino III
Millennial wants instant gratification, so cute.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:46 pm to el duderino III
Has it ever occurred to you that the company doesn’t really need you and wouldn’t faulter one bit if you never go back? How valuable are you really if that’s the case?
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:49 pm to deeprig9
You did a good job, and after a year you want to escalate to the vp that you want more money or else..... wow.
How about have a good year 2, year 3, build a great reputation at the company, get some direct reports, guide them to success in year 5,6,7, build a career at the company, and maybe you’ll be vp someday.
Whiny little millennial. Sorry it hurts your feelings.
How about have a good year 2, year 3, build a great reputation at the company, get some direct reports, guide them to success in year 5,6,7, build a career at the company, and maybe you’ll be vp someday.
Whiny little millennial. Sorry it hurts your feelings.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:50 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Well, you are In fact a millennial. Sorry. And you didn’t grow up without the internet. It was mainstream by the mid 1990s. Back to the point.... have you ever had a job before?
So basically, regardless of anyone's work ethic, temperament, leadership traits, character, etc, if they were born within a certain date range, they are a millennial, and so all millennial are the same to you and should not be evaluated on an individual basis.
Did you even read the post? I'm 30, an have been working since I was 12, and put myself through school.
So go frick yourself old man. Keep grouping people into whatever categories make you feel better about yourself. You seem old enough that I bet you also group them by categories you wouldn't say in public.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:51 pm to DrEdgeLSU
See you have to clarify this.... my gen thinks that they are different than the kids who are 18 now because we didn’t get computers until middle school/high school. Just to specify let’s say you did grow up with computers if you were born in 85 or after... my much older brother has the same skills on a pc as my dad. My brother is 40 for reference
Posted on 6/14/18 at 5:53 pm to tigerdude3232
quote:exactly, thank you
See you have to clarify this.... my gen thinks that they are different than the kids who are 18 now because we didn’t get computers until middle school/high school
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