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re: Working 2 jobs at once - is this wrong?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
Your "guy you know" should take the better job of the two and spend your extra time chasing tail.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:38 am to Eli Goldfinger
If you could do 2 full time jobs at the same time, then neither is actually a full time job.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:09 am to Eli Goldfinger
Tell him to take it because people online are curious to see just how badly this can turn out.
Keep us posted
Keep us posted
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:09 am to Eli Goldfinger
The problem will be when contemporaries in the industry start talking and they figure it out or worse the new company puts out a media release announcing the new hire
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:15 am to Eli Goldfinger
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2 6-figure jobs > 1 6-figure job
Ever hear the phrase, "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush?" This is pretty much exactly that. If Job B is so great, guy should probably just quit Job A.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:17 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
It’s not necessarily unethical, because the jobs support different markets within the country,
What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to convince yourself of this? Let's just look at the fact that the two companies are competitors, the fact that the markets do not overlap today mean nothing in terms of what may happen tomorrow.
Throw in that both companies have policies which disallow this as stated in
quote:
However, the companies are competitors and would never allow this.
and clearly the industry as a whole frowns upon this as evidenced by
quote:the the very act of doing thid in spite of the company policies and industry standards is unethical.
but job #1 and job #2 can’t find out about each other, or he’d surely be blackballed.
Add to that he is already calculating how he can use his flexible hours for Job #1 to put them off to make sure he can cover Job #2.
My advice would be to pick one job, either, if you want to be ethical. Pick both if you want a nightmare of possibilities ending in unemployment and a damaged reputation hoping you can make it 2 years and figure out a way to quietly disentangle yourself from the mess you've created. .
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:18 am to Eli Goldfinger
Pretty sure I’ve read this thread before.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:29 am to crimsonsaint
Everyone is assuming the companies would not allow this. That is not an established fact.
Even if it were - I'm not sure it's a COI. Different markets means they have no possibility of competing with each other, thanks to Obamacare.
If the jobs are as high paying as suggested, then he should visit an attorney and get some legal advice. If the attorney thinks he's in the clear then he should go for it. For that much extra salary, it would be worth the attorney costs. Would also allow him to provide quick service of a pending suit if one of them fires him.
Go for it.
Even if it were - I'm not sure it's a COI. Different markets means they have no possibility of competing with each other, thanks to Obamacare.
If the jobs are as high paying as suggested, then he should visit an attorney and get some legal advice. If the attorney thinks he's in the clear then he should go for it. For that much extra salary, it would be worth the attorney costs. Would also allow him to provide quick service of a pending suit if one of them fires him.
Go for it.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:50 am to Eli Goldfinger
Code of conduct at both surely disallow
Depending on spot if he has an agreement that probably disallows as well
Depending on spot if he has an agreement that probably disallows as well
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:52 am to thelawnwranglers
What do you put on LinkedIn? Lol
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:52 am to starsandstripes
quote:
Everyone is assuming the companies would not allow this. That is not an established fact.
OP said the companies would never allow it.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:05 am to Eli Goldfinger
Other than the fact that hecould lose both jobs? I am guessing there is a clause in the contract regarding this issue.
Lots of insurance salesman set up side gigs with different carriers. They often work for well established insurance companies with many customers that do not qualify for insurance with that company for whatever reason. They set up a side gig to funnel those people to their own company. The thought is that the large insurance company they work for will not insure the person, so there is not conflict. If that is the case, why are they so secretive about it?
Lots of insurance salesman set up side gigs with different carriers. They often work for well established insurance companies with many customers that do not qualify for insurance with that company for whatever reason. They set up a side gig to funnel those people to their own company. The thought is that the large insurance company they work for will not insure the person, so there is not conflict. If that is the case, why are they so secretive about it?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:15 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
It’s not necessarily unethica
100% it is
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:24 am to Eli Goldfinger
I was fine with everything until:
Pick one, or lose both...
quote:
However, the companies are competitors
Pick one, or lose both...
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:26 am to mdomingue
So if you're an insurance guy that works from home do you just answer the phone and sell an insurance policy? If so why can't we sell insurance off the internet with drop down menus for what you want like ordering a pizza online
It sounds like some of you have silly jobs
It sounds like some of you have silly jobs
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
A lot of insurance companies run certain employees credit every year. He is going to get caught and fired and possibly blackballed if word gets around
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 am to Eli Goldfinger
Do either/both companies make you sign a non compete?
Maybe it's just because I'm in sales, but this would typically be strictly forbidden.
Also (once again coming from a sales perspective), it's possible to violate compliance/anti-trust/price fixing laws and end up with criminal charges - but I'll accept that this might not be the case in Insurance.
Maybe it's just because I'm in sales, but this would typically be strictly forbidden.
Also (once again coming from a sales perspective), it's possible to violate compliance/anti-trust/price fixing laws and end up with criminal charges - but I'll accept that this might not be the case in Insurance.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 am to sleepytime
I personally would not give any advice. If you tell him go for it and it blows up, he can say you told him to do it. If you tell him to forget it he will think of all the money he could have made except for you.
No win situation.
No win situation.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:So this is an allegory about Kirby Smart actually still working for UA?
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