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re: Working 2 jobs at once - is this wrong?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:34 am to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:34 am to
Your "guy you know" should take the better job of the two and spend your extra time chasing tail.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118894 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 5:38 am to
If you could do 2 full time jobs at the same time, then neither is actually a full time job.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:09 am to
Tell him to take it because people online are curious to see just how badly this can turn out.

Keep us posted



Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:09 am to
The problem will be when contemporaries in the industry start talking and they figure it out or worse the new company puts out a media release announcing the new hire
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6364 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:15 am to
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2 6-figure jobs > 1 6-figure job


Ever hear the phrase, "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush?" This is pretty much exactly that. If Job B is so great, guy should probably just quit Job A.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29971 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:17 am to
quote:

It’s not necessarily unethical, because the jobs support different markets within the country,


What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to convince yourself of this? Let's just look at the fact that the two companies are competitors, the fact that the markets do not overlap today mean nothing in terms of what may happen tomorrow.

Throw in that both companies have policies which disallow this as stated in
quote:

However, the companies are competitors and would never allow this.

and clearly the industry as a whole frowns upon this as evidenced by
quote:

but job #1 and job #2 can’t find out about each other, or he’d surely be blackballed.

the the very act of doing thid in spite of the company policies and industry standards is unethical.

Add to that he is already calculating how he can use his flexible hours for Job #1 to put them off to make sure he can cover Job #2.

My advice would be to pick one job, either, if you want to be ethical. Pick both if you want a nightmare of possibilities ending in unemployment and a damaged reputation hoping you can make it 2 years and figure out a way to quietly disentangle yourself from the mess you've created. .

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:18 am to
Pretty sure I’ve read this thread before.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:29 am to
Everyone is assuming the companies would not allow this. That is not an established fact.

Even if it were - I'm not sure it's a COI. Different markets means they have no possibility of competing with each other, thanks to Obamacare.

If the jobs are as high paying as suggested, then he should visit an attorney and get some legal advice. If the attorney thinks he's in the clear then he should go for it. For that much extra salary, it would be worth the attorney costs. Would also allow him to provide quick service of a pending suit if one of them fires him.

Go for it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:50 am to
Code of conduct at both surely disallow


Depending on spot if he has an agreement that probably disallows as well
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:52 am to
What do you put on LinkedIn? Lol
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5125 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:52 am to
quote:

Everyone is assuming the companies would not allow this. That is not an established fact.

OP said the companies would never allow it.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27472 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 6:55 am to
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13612 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:05 am to
Other than the fact that hecould lose both jobs? I am guessing there is a clause in the contract regarding this issue.

Lots of insurance salesman set up side gigs with different carriers. They often work for well established insurance companies with many customers that do not qualify for insurance with that company for whatever reason. They set up a side gig to funnel those people to their own company. The thought is that the large insurance company they work for will not insure the person, so there is not conflict. If that is the case, why are they so secretive about it?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:15 am to
quote:

It’s not necessarily unethica


100% it is
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:24 am to
I was fine with everything until:

quote:

However, the companies are competitors


Pick one, or lose both...
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52908 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:26 am to
So if you're an insurance guy that works from home do you just answer the phone and sell an insurance policy? If so why can't we sell insurance off the internet with drop down menus for what you want like ordering a pizza online

It sounds like some of you have silly jobs
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3568 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:31 am to
A lot of insurance companies run certain employees credit every year. He is going to get caught and fired and possibly blackballed if word gets around
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 am to
Do either/both companies make you sign a non compete?

Maybe it's just because I'm in sales, but this would typically be strictly forbidden.

Also (once again coming from a sales perspective), it's possible to violate compliance/anti-trust/price fixing laws and end up with criminal charges - but I'll accept that this might not be the case in Insurance.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3480 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 am to
I personally would not give any advice. If you tell him go for it and it blows up, he can say you told him to do it. If you tell him to forget it he will think of all the money he could have made except for you.

No win situation.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65519 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:45 am to
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Eli Goldfinger
Alabama Fan
Member since Sep 2016
4712 posts
So this is an allegory about Kirby Smart actually still working for UA?
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