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re: Wish someone had kicked my butt more about grades...

Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:19 pm to
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I was more than happy to "pass" and just play sports. I have a B.A. and a Master's


Same here. I was happy just to pass high school. Got my act together in college and graduated with honors.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:20 pm to
Bogalusa or waterproof
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14360 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:25 pm to
I hate to think about how much screwing around my first attempt at college ended up costing me over lifetime earnings. I started my career about 6 years later than I would have if I would have given a sh*t.
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3426 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:28 pm to
I see things a bit differently than you.

My parents rode my arse about grades constantly when I was in school. As such, I made straight A's over my entire run, more or less.

When I graduated, I had no idea what I wanted to do. I'd always been told that if I simply made "good grades," a great job would fall into my lap. It never did. I do alright, but I could be doing much better.

A lot of guys I know who barely passed school now have much higher paying jobs than me.

My daughters make good grades, but I'm always sure to stress having a career path laid out and making connections is far more important.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3372 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:31 pm to
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but not learning more (languages, focusing on math and science, reading more, etc.) is always a regret.


There is literally nothing stopping you form doing it now and there has literally never been a better time to do this with the amount of free resources online/youtube?
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
44536 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:31 pm to
You are a hundred percent wrong on that. You can get into UVA Law with the right GPA and LSAT from any school. I got in with a 3.86 and 165 LSAT from LSU (could have just as easily been McNeese) and there was a guy who was in the military that had a University of Phoenix undergrad. Law school admissions is 99% GPA and LSAT.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47224 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:33 pm to
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Unless you are trying to go Ivy league it's a total waste of time.

That’s going too far. I agree with the post above that other qualities are more important, but getting good grades helps in more ways than getting into good colleges. What about getting into med school as an example?
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11213 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:40 pm to
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I made straight A's over my entire run, more or less.

When I graduated, I had no idea what I wanted to do. I'd always been told that if I simply made "good grades," a great job would fall into my lap. It never did. I do alright, but I could be doing much better.

A lot of guys I know who barely passed school now have much higher paying jobs than me.


Same and agree 100%

Old law school saying:

"The A students became academics, B students spent their time trying to get their children into the university as legacies, and the C students—the ones who had made the money—sat on the fund-raising committee."
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16879 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:48 pm to
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That’s going too far. I agree with the post above that other qualities are more important, but getting good grades helps in more ways than getting into good colleges. What about getting into med school as an example?


Med schools place high value on grades but want to see community service, extra curricular items, great recommendation letters, and most importantly these days....do you check a DEI box. That is one field that should be based on best and brightest from the best universities.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35305 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Some districts have changed the grading system. My generation's system was

A= 94-100
B= 88-93
C = 76-78
D = 67-75
F = 66 and below

My undergrad grading scale was similar to this, unfortunately.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87089 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:53 pm to
I'm pretty sure my grades in college did zero to advance my career
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
28565 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:02 pm to
The focus shouldn't be or at least doesn't need to be about grades. The key is teaching a child very early about the importance of learning and being curious. Develop the thirst for knowledge and reward and support the process and the grades will come without any emphasis on them.

One of the things very important with boys is getting them to understand the connection between traditional subjects and all the things they like to do. Learning the value of science and math when it comes to building things etc goes a long way to developing a child that actually wants to learn those subjects.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83608 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:15 pm to
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You are a hundred percent wrong on that. You can get into UVA Law with the right GPA and LSAT from any school. I got in with a 3.86 and 165 LSAT from LSU (could have just as easily been McNeese) and there was a guy who was in the military that had a University of Phoenix undergrad. Law school admissions is 99% GPA and LSAT.


I'm really not. Exceptions to the rule. I highly doubt you get into UVA with a 165 and a 3.86 at McNeese - full stop. Very highly doubt it.

It's impossible to sort out how much is school vs. how much is quality of kids at the school (ie, you don't see kids from McNeese at Harvard because kids from McNeese don't get 175+ LSAT scores). Nonetheless, if you polled top 20 law schools, even more accessible ones, it's obvious that most of them are being fed by good, large publics and good privates. The number of U Phoenix kids (your guy had military to boot) or lower end publics is very small.

This is the same as the debate we always have on such topics here. Sure, you can get to big law by doing awesome at mid tier schools, but it's harder. The same is true here - going from McNeese to t14 is going to be a considerably harder road than from somewhere like A&M or even LSU. I won't say it's impossible, but I'd definitely advise someone to take the path that produces more good results than the one where you might be in rarified air coming from a given situation.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
9587 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:21 pm to
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but not learning more (languages, focusing on math and science, reading more, etc.) is always a regret.

These don't necessarily relate to high school grades. You can always read and learn another language. I started German but need to start Spanish. I've started reading more non fiction, civilizational standards. My high school grades don't affect my ability to do that.

However, your point is probably that if you'd started those interests or habits earlier you'd be better off. That's true.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
757 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:21 pm to
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Unless you are trying to go Ivy league it's a total waste of time.


I agree partly but our kids are seniors and going to college in the fall and GPA and ACT matter a pretty good bit on how much money we're going to be paying for college.

One of ours got a scholarship and one didnt. With a little freaking effort both could have gotten a scholarship and saved us a ton of money. I stayed on one kid and the wife wouldnt let me on the other.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34062 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:27 pm to
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3rd grade and just got her first B. She had a full on boo-hoo fit.


Don't tell her that that B would be a C- on the 1994 grading scale.
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Member since Jan 2014
10644 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:29 pm to
Same here.. Dads stay on this shite.

The reason I didn't is because I never knew mine until I was 16. My step dad before that was kinda just into nothing but hunting and fishing. So I had to self impose my own discipline there but ended up with about a 2.75 gpa all told.

After their divorce i kinda fell off academically and graduated high school by the skin of my teeth and now im 38 and going to BRCC.

So yeah it's very important for a young person
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51536 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:31 pm to
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I wouldn’t worry about it, I made really good grades and I’m a complete loser


Don't we all feel that way sometimes? I mean, those of us who were actually smart enough to get good grades in school.

Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
4250 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:35 pm to
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Unless you are trying to go Ivy league it's a total waste of time.


Not a waste of time for Louisiana kids. A higher GPA and good ACT score can earn them a lot of TOPS money for college.
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