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re: Why doesn’t the Korean War get more recognition?

Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:08 am to
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:08 am to
Instead of war history we should be teaching our young war strategy, game theory, and supply chain management.
Posted by deaconjones35
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:21 am to
Here’s my Pow Pow close to the DMZ while serving in the Korean War. I love this picture. He passed 5 years ago.

Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:40 am to
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Why doesn’t the Korean War get more recognition?


In 65 years will people be asking “why doesn’t the Karen War get more recognition?”
Posted by IMJ127
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:53 am to
I agree with the OP. I never knew much about it. My grandfather fought in the war but never talked to anyone about it.

He was pretty messed up after coming home. He was shot in the head, back, and leg. He would lay outside with his rifle all night long thinking someone was coming. I made sure to visit the Korean War Memorial in DC in his honor. Here's a pic from my visit.

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 6:11 am to
Nasty, nasty war that packed nearly all of Vietnam's brutality and death into about a 3 year span.

My old man was there -got orders 2 days after graduating LSU/ROTC. He's still amazed he made it home (he's 90, now).

People were sick of war after WWII and nobody wanted to hear about it - just that simple.

Posted by blueboxer1119
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:04 am to
My grandfather was playing football for Oklahoma and quit to join the Marines.

Was sent to Korea and came back pretty messed up. Told lots of stories about the extreme cold, hand to hand combat with Chinese, and how the Chinese feared a Marine with a bayonet.

He said when Marines would start strapping on bayonets, the Chinese would start running. He also said they would cut the heads of the chinese and put them on stakes around their camp.

*his unit apparantly fought primarily chinese.
Posted by bobdylan
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:16 am to
My paw paw fought in the war.

Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:06 am to
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and a shitty, long war we lost...badly.

I wouldn't consider Vietnam a win for anyone but the US certainly didn't lose badly.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:32 am to
Well, except for the poor schmucks who were fighting to win a war that their government wouldn't let them win. We won every battle, but couldn't successfully hold the country. ~58,000 Americans paid with their lives in a war that Washington shouldn't have gotten us in, and then wouldn't let the military fully prosecute.
Posted by ExtraGravy
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:48 am to
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Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:50 am to
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was a proxy war between Russia and the USA


china says hi.

not celebrated because we did not win.

here is the scene.
war is goimg great.
usa and British empire were pushing north korea around.
but then:
china sent 1 million men south and shoved the anglo american empire so far south they were pinned at the south end of the peninsula.
looking like dunkirk was about to happen.
usa landed a force north of the battle line at inchon and saved the day.

stalemate ensued which persists to this day.

my dad did a tour in theater.
light duty really. he had served from 30s to end of ww2. highly decorated. retired. drafted because pilot.
ferrying b 29s from clark where we lived in phillipines to the action.

once after to teach koreans to fly.

the few movies are just horror flicks.
read up on inchon.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:58 am to
I haven't read the thread, but this was a brutally awful war. Our solders faced unspeakable hardships.

My Freshman English Teacher at the Citadel (who was notoriously famous on Campus) was a Citadel Alumni and Infantry 1st Lt in Korea. He told us of how he was shot up so badly, they put him on a truck loaded with bodies. One of the medics there saw him moving and said "Hey, this guy's not dead." They managed to patch him up and he spent several months on a hospital ship before he was well enough to be transferred to Walter Reed. A letterman in 4 sports while he was at the Citadel, it took him over a year to learn how to walk again. He earned his Masters Degree (Shakespearean literature) from his hospital bed. Crusty as could be, he was one of the smartest and most well read men I have ever known.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:09 am to
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I was never taught one lesson throughout all of my schooling on Vietnam or Korea. And I'd argue that I could learn more from those two wars than learning about WWII for the dozenth time.



Watch the Ken Burns Documentary series on Vietnam. It's incredible
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:00 am to
How are you measuring the recognition it receives?

If you measure recognition by the degree of change DoD underwent after each; then Vietnam was our most significant war as it taught us to abandon the 3rd world conscription based armed services to a real Professional Army.

That was a long-term game-changer that tilted the balance of conventional warfare back towards our side.

My other metric is food: WWII Pacific featured Japan, who has outstanding food. Vietnam has legendary food, easily the best cuisine in their part of the world. Korean food is tasty, obviously of high quality. But compared to Pho or Sushi, the Koreans are a great disadvantage as they lots of great foods but no signature dish like the others and are simply outshined.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:09 am to
So, funny personal story about the Korean War. After WWII you could join the army reserves but you didn’t have to do any training like you have to do now.

My grandmother signed my grandfather up and didn’t tell him after WWII and just kept cashing that monthly reserve check. Well the Korean War broke out and one day my grandfather got a call saying his reserve unit was called up. He had no idea and had to report in 24 hours. Needless to say, if he wasn’t expecting his first child when he left for the war, he probably would not have come home to her.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 10:14 am
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:10 am to
We’re fighting the Karen war right now
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
340 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:52 am to
Huh?? Without UN intervention the Soviet backed Kim regime takes the while peninsula and Stalin is justified in believing that war weary America will back down and will return to isolationism. Instead Stalin backed off leaving N Korea hanging and for the Chinese to deal with the problem (laying the ground work for the Sino-Soviet split).

While the War ended in a stalemate it was a massive strategic victory for the US.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:09 am to
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The Turk said it was kind of their religion if the knife comes out it has to have blood on it before he could holster it back


Like a Fremen of Arrakis.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:10 am to
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wouldn't consider Vietnam a win for anyone but the US certainly didn't lose badly.


The US lost a ton of lives and the public trust for basically nothing. It was a big loss despite how the casualties on the battlefield stack up
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27285 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:32 am to
My wife's uncle was awarded a purple heart, bronze star, and silver star for his actions in Korea.

He never talked to anyone about his time in the war. A couple of years before he died, I went to check on him. He was sitting on his front porch, and when I sat next to him he out of the blue opened up to me about the war; what he did, what he saw, and how he earned his medals.

He never spoke of it again, but I was honored that he told me.

quote:

Private First Class John *****, Field Artillery, United States Army, a member of Battery B, 52nd Field Artillery Battalion, 24th Infantry Division, is awarded the Silver Star for gallantry in action on 16 July 1950 near Yongdong, Korea. The enemy had penetrated front line units and were attacking the battery’s positions. PFC ****, a battery cook, joined a 105 howitzer section which was firing on the enemy from the battery’s exposed flank. While serving this howitzer in direct fire he was wounded twice by small arms fire. At one time the howitzer received a direct hit and wounded three men serving the howitzer. With utter disregard of his own personal safety, PFC **** continued loading and firing the howitzer by himself until the enemy infantry was finally driven from the battery’s exposed flank. The act of gallantry displayed by PFC **** reflects great credit on himself and the military service. GO 82, 10 Aug 1950. Entered service from New Orleans, LA.
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