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re: Why can't we get a compact, 4 cylinder diesel pickup here in the US?

Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:55 pm to
I wish we had Utes like the Aussies have.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:59 pm to
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I wish we had Utes like the Aussies have.


Too much El Camino/Ranchero baggage in the US.
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1276 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:01 pm to
I heard the Dept of Labor under Obama killed the hilux because of no union snd it would kill US small truck ssles
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:08 pm to
They’re all over the Caribbean islands. Brand new models all with small Diesel engines.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Too much El Camino/Ranchero baggage in the US.



Neighbors had a mid-80's el camino, it was immaculate but had the anemic 305 in it. They dropped a ZZ3 crate engine in it and built a TH400 for it. I think they still have it but it's been parked up for years now, one of those someday projects that will never get done now.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17160 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:22 pm to
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My dad still has an old 87 Isuzu Pup that is still running with 322k.
Those old isabooboo's will run forever or until they get blown away in the wind. Way too lightweight for the little diesel engine.

The auto shop I worked while in college in the 80's used one for a shop vehicle. Thing would chirp the tires going into 3rd gear and could stand still and burn the rubber completely off the tires in 1st. But high winds made the thing scary to take on more than city roads it was so light.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:39 pm to
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Neighbors had a mid-80's el camino, it was immaculate but had the anemic 305 in it


My best friend from high school has his GF's 59 El Camino, it came with a I6 235 and a Powerglide. We built a warmed over 327 and left the 'glide in it. Not remotely fast but just enough to make it a good daily.

No his but his is the same color

Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:21 am to
Growing up, one of our neighbors had a long bed Isuzu Pup. It was small and efficient but could haul a sizable amount. And it was easy to load because it was so low to the ground.



I wonder if Toyota will ever offer a hybrid Tacoma? I think that'd save more money than a diesel.
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5566 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:32 am to
Like the 2.8L 4cyl Colorado or Canyon?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27174 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:59 am to
Import tariffs on light trucks are ridiculous.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:03 am to
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Is this something Americans would buy?


No, which is why they don't offer them. This thread will be full of people saying they would though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:04 am to
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Is this something Americans would buy?

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no frills,


nope
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 6:04 am
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:39 am to
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Let me rephrase: no one will BUY a compact truck.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 8:11 am
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:52 am to
I considered a Tacoma before i bought my F150 but once you all all the options to the Tacoma it was just as much as the F150. Plus the gas mileage was the same too. Someone does need to come out with a basic small truck again. 4 cylinder, manual etc. oh and my first vehicle was a ranger and I drove it well over 140,000 Miles.
Posted by JakeTheTiger
Biloxi, MS
Member since Jul 2005
3152 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:02 am to
Diesel is gaining in popularity. For the first time in a while you can buy a half ton diesel. I think they would be far more popular if it weren’t for the emissions standards. It takes away a bit of the benefit you get with the diesel and the regen cycle with DEF destroys my average MPG.

I drive a Titan XD with the Cummins Turbo Diesel. I love it, but will love it even more once the warranty goes away at 100,000 miles and can make the emissions crap go away.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:03 am to
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Like the 2.8L 4cyl Colorado or Canyon?


The Duramax powered Colorado and canyon are awesome trucks, but they are not compact. Those are mid sized rigs that are as large as a 1990s f-150.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90598 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:38 am to
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loved the S-10 from the mid 90's.


I still have a 2003 one for light work on the farm. Has a 4.3L in it too.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16996 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:41 am to
It would hurt the gas truck industry.

A 4 cyclinder diesel truck would be amazing.

A Toyota hilux would probably out live you
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:52 am to
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Is this something Americans would buy?



No. Why diesel? You're not going to be towing anything with a 4 so why the need for diesel.

Compact trucks sold like hotcakes to latino dry wall finishers and white trash framers and roofers back in the housing boom of the 80's here in FL. Don't see why they wouldn't sell now. Mitsubishi Raider was the last of the true construction worker personal pickups. Legit firms use full size but day laborers are all about the Mazda B2000 all gas all the time.

You won't be winning any dick swinging contests with 250's rolling coal but you can do some projects around the house easier than if you had an SUV.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:54 am to
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I really would love for someone to make compact pickups again, diesel or not. Something the size of the old S10 or 90s Ranger.

The “mid size” pickups of today would be full size even just 20 years ago. It sucks there’s no option for a compact pickup other than to buy used, which are getting older and rarer, but that’s what I’ll continue doing until they start making them again.


Bring back the late 90’s Dakotas. You still see some on the road today. In fact my brother in law still uses a 98 V8 Dakota as his daily driver. Just hit 278k miles on it! It’s a midsized truck that can still do all the “truck stuff” typical owners need.
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