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re: Why can't we get a compact, 4 cylinder diesel pickup here in the US?
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:55 am to Polycarp
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:55 am to Polycarp
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Like the 2.8L 4cyl Colorado or Canyon?
Those are not compact trucks though. And what's the mileage on that engine? I'm wanting something like the VW Passat or Jetta for mileage.
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:56 am to deltaland
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Has a 4.3L in it too.
That engine would burn the tires off. Man I loved that engine.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:56 am to Fat and Happy
I have a 2000 Ford Ranger I got from my parents two years ago. 3.0L V-6 with a manual transmission. 87,000 miles and runs like a top. MPG is only 20 on the highway though. Big ole tires. Get asked to sell it all the time.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:59 am to deltaland
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I still have a 2003 one for light work on the farm. Has a 4.3L in it too.
In hindsight, The 4.3L V6 in a truck the size of an S-10 was a bit dangerous.
Those things were little rockets.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:01 am to WoWyHi
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The new Ford truck, which some speculate could be called the Courier will be front-wheel drive but will expand globally to include markets such as the U.S., according to a social media post for a Ford engineer. In addition to the information from the post, a source at Ford tells us that development is tied to the development of the Transit Connect and that the new truck will have a wheelbase that is between 120 and 122 inches—which is very similar to the 120.6-inch wheelbase of the current Transit Connect LWB
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This should put the wheelbase of the truck at about half a foot shorter than the Ranger and make it in line with a first generation Honda Ridgeline, or an early 2000s Toyota Tacoma
Jalopnik on Ford unibody truck
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:02 am to member12
My podna growing up had the 4.3 in a single cab s10 with the 5 speed manual. It was a fun truck.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:03 am to WoWyHi
Doesn’t exist, sadly. The CanyoRado Duramax is the most fuel efficient truck you can buy, I think. That, or maybe a 2WD SuperCab F150 PowerStroke. That’ll touch 30 highway I think, with real V6 diesel power
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:03 am to MojoGuyPan
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Mitsubishi Raider was the last of the true construction worker personal pickups.
I think it was called the Mitsubishi Mighty Max back then.
The problem with those Japanese compacts from the 1980s and 1990s were not that they weren’t reliable. They were. They were also prone to rusting out very easily. That reputation ruined them in the midwestern and northern states where roads are salted in the winter.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:13 am to WoWyHi
My very limited understanding of the situation is this:
25% import tax on light trucks dating back to the Johnson Administration, AKA the Chicken Tax
American manufacturers fear light duty trucks would harm one of their most profitable products, the Class 2 Light Truck (F-150, Silverado 1500, Ram 1500).
EPA Emission Standards for diesel-powered vehicles are stricter than other countries that manufacture or import light trucks.
American manufacturers do have not shown a commitment to R&D for a diesel-powered engine which would meet or exceed EPA emission standards in a light truck smaller than their profitable products.
It would appear the Big Three could lobby for reducing emission standards to start producing diesel-powered light trucks but there is a fear that the foreign manufacturers (Toyota, VW, etc.) would dominate the US domestic market because the foreign manufacturers are far ahead in R&D and could commit to manufacturing plants in the US faster than the Big Three.
I expect someone to refute some or all of my thoughts, and encourage others to bring more information to the discussion so we can better understand why the light, compact trucks so popular around the world have not and are not available in the US.
25% import tax on light trucks dating back to the Johnson Administration, AKA the Chicken Tax
American manufacturers fear light duty trucks would harm one of their most profitable products, the Class 2 Light Truck (F-150, Silverado 1500, Ram 1500).
EPA Emission Standards for diesel-powered vehicles are stricter than other countries that manufacture or import light trucks.
American manufacturers do have not shown a commitment to R&D for a diesel-powered engine which would meet or exceed EPA emission standards in a light truck smaller than their profitable products.
It would appear the Big Three could lobby for reducing emission standards to start producing diesel-powered light trucks but there is a fear that the foreign manufacturers (Toyota, VW, etc.) would dominate the US domestic market because the foreign manufacturers are far ahead in R&D and could commit to manufacturing plants in the US faster than the Big Three.
I expect someone to refute some or all of my thoughts, and encourage others to bring more information to the discussion so we can better understand why the light, compact trucks so popular around the world have not and are not available in the US.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:21 am to member12
Had the Dodge version of the Mighty Max which was called the Ram 50. Loved that truck. Could load my four wheeler in the back and close the tailgate plus put me and two of my buddies in the front. Lots of leg room for a small truck.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:32 am to WoWyHi
I don’t not see the draw for diesel
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:34 am to WoWyHi
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:34 am to McVick
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EPA Emission Standards for diesel-powered vehicles are stricter than other countries that manufacture or import light trucks.
And a big FU and LOL at the libtarded tree huggers that think America is behind other countries when it comes to vehicle emmissions. Leave it to the liberals to ruin everything.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:35 am to WoWyHi
I lived in Costa Rica for a few years and had a 3L turbo diesel Toyota Hilux Crew Cab 4x4. Slightly bigger than Tacoma but smaller than a Tundra.
I've had 6 different trucks over the years.
The Hilux is hands down is the best truck I've ever owned.
I think they'd sell like hotcakes here in US. I looked hard into importing in back to Louisiana but no dice.
They make more money selling larger trucks. I don't believe they want to eat into their profits.
I've had 6 different trucks over the years.
The Hilux is hands down is the best truck I've ever owned.
I think they'd sell like hotcakes here in US. I looked hard into importing in back to Louisiana but no dice.
They make more money selling larger trucks. I don't believe they want to eat into their profits.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:38 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:I have an 8 but I wish I still had a 6. What do I need 8 for? Nothing. It's like you people just love throwing all your money down the drain so you can beat your chest for driving a 60K truck.
If you don’t got 8, you ain’t straight
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:42 am to WoWyHi
Diesel Canyon / Colorado have been available for a few years now.
Congrats on coming out of your coma!
Congrats on coming out of your coma!
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:43 am to HooDooWitch
And the diesel is not available in the bottom trim trucks. It is not an economy option.
It should be available in the bottom trim half ton trucks as an economic commuter option and the colorado/canyon should go away.
It should be available in the bottom trim half ton trucks as an economic commuter option and the colorado/canyon should go away.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:45 am to WoWyHi
Honest question...could an American go to Mexico and buy one to bring back?
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:46 am to WoWyHi
diesel pickups make sense for pulling or hauling heavy loads.
What are you gonna do with a mini diesel pick up? Haul mulch?
I just don't see the need.
What are you gonna do with a mini diesel pick up? Haul mulch?
I just don't see the need.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:46 am to WoWyHi
The answer is emissions certification costs.
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