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re: Why are gay men so depraved?

Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:37 pm to
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The "Ken and Barbie Killers".



ngl, that's a dreamy couple right there
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Why would you bring this disgusting arse story to the OT?
Reading about your new tattoo grossed me out more jk
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:38 pm to
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What do you disagree with?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Hmmmmm.


There is nature, and there is what is culturally or sociologically normal.

It's natural (in a sense) for people exposed to the same stimuli to need more extreme versions of the same to get the same reaction/response.

It's worth discussing on a sociological level how these things come to be.

But we can have those discussions without normalizing the behavior.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:41 pm to
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You aren’t taking the field if you limit the choices to those two options.

Who is replacing them in your hypothetical, and why aren't those people adopting kids today? You do know there are thousands and thousands of kids in some form of state custody begging to be adopted, right?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:44 pm to
I mean, I'm no Jennifer Coolidge, but dammit, I'm trying.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:45 pm to
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Society would undoubtedly be better off if we did not allow gays to be parents. More often than not, the adopted children would be better off as well (not always).

You’re probably right. Society would be far better off if the pool of well qualified and vetted adults, willing and able to raise the fruit of another’s loins, were smaller.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:45 pm to
that's disturbing. You need to watch less news if this is news to you. Blech..
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:46 pm to
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What do you disagree with?


Short answer: The idea that it's a good use of time to try and have a thoughtful discussion that involves you.

Longer answer: Acknowledging how American gay culture arose and how it contributed to the debauched nature of it now is not an excuse for said culture. When I talk about this stuff, I assume I'm talking about it with people largely like minded who can sort through the history and realities of a given thing without jumping to media-like talking points that I'm implying acceptance or tolerance for "underage stuff."

Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:48 pm to
They always be making it look so tempting.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Are gay men the only demographic who do disgusting stuff like that?



No. I've done some pretty damn depraved sh*t with women
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Who is replacing them in your hypothetical


so you are capable of defining “the field” in a very restrictive way, but incapable of actually understanding it when not being restrictive? The field involves all of the potential non-gay married adoptive parent ls that exist today.

Do you think gays represent a massive number of adoptive parents that couldn’t be filled from the non-gay population?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87290 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Who is replacing them in your hypothetical, and why aren't those people adopting kids today? You do know there are thousands and thousands of kids in some form of state custody begging to be adopted, right?



Do we have any useful data on this for this conversation? When I see gay couples adopting, they're adopting babies. Or they're doing IVF with surrogates. I don't see them adopting 8 year old minority boys with behavioral issues.

Which means they're competing in the same space (anecdotally at least) as countless traditional couples - ie, trying to adopt young children.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:52 pm to
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30% of gay men have over 1000 sexual partners that’s considered normal for them


97% of statistics are made up
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:53 pm to
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I don't see them adopting 8 year old minority boys with behavioral issues.

Yeah, almost nobody does. Though I did read once that gays are like 2-3x more likely to try fostering. Don’t care enough to chase the link.

Most people that want to be parents want to nurture and raise them from as young as possible.

That said, I live in an urban setting and a lot of gay families live in my area. They’ve all adopted non white babies except one. They assimilate well and aren’t overly abnormal kids.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Even without that, there is absolutely a pattern of informing the public exactly what their fetish is. You don’t see me advertising my penchant for interracial midget sadism (hypothetically)
Exactly. When your entire psyche and public persona revolves around your bedroom debauchery and fetishes, and you insist your perversions be publicly lauded, you're not fighting for rights, you're fighting for abandonment of polite society. The absurdity of asking someone if they, "support" homosexuality is lost upon the average NPC walking around today: What do you mean, do I "support" gay sex? I "support" being good stewards of the land. I "support" puppies not being thrown into a dog fighting ring and bringing manufacturing back to America. I've no proclivity to "support" a man sticking his penis into another man's butthole, or any hole for that matter. That doesn't even make sense to ask me to "support" that.

And I love how someone mentioned Diddy as an equivalent to heterosexuals having the same depravity. Talk about a self-own: the entire context of his shocking truth being told is how intertwined the elite are with power and greed and their serial affinity with pedophilia and gay sex perversions. The entire pop culture complex is a debased, and Diddy is exhibit A. The shock value isn't because he wanted his girlfriend to sleep with another man in front of him, or him ejaculating onto her face after having vacation sex while the kids stay at grandma's, it's because he and other "masculine" rappers, athletes and politicians were screwing each other in the butt and raping children.

As the youngsters like to say, "they (gay depravity) not like us."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476331 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:58 pm to
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I don't see them adopting 8 year old minority boys with behavioral issues.
2 gay guys operate a few businesses in my building and they did this, but more like 4 than 8. 2 of them.

Just FWIW

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Which means they're competing in the same space (anecdotally at least) as countless traditional couples - ie, trying to adopt young children.

Those are the cream of the crop, for sure, but not the only children who get adopted, or else we'd have exponentially more in the system. A very tiny portion of kids in state custody are newborns. Someone is adopting a solid % of the rest. That was the hypo first proposed.

But my point still remains. If there was this huge population of people who would be adopting but-for gays, why aren't they adopting kids today?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476331 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:59 pm to
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The field involves all of the potential non-gay married adoptive parent ls that exist today.


Who aren't adopting these kids today.

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Do you think gays represent a massive number of adoptive parents that couldn’t be filled from the non-gay population?

No, but my question still remains. This putative class can adopt today, in addition to gays adopting. Why aren't they?
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:07 pm to
You really have to ask this question?
Posted by GaPhan
Member since Nov 2017
423 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:08 pm to
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gays are deviants
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