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re: Why are gay men so depraved?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But my point still remains. If there was this huge population of people who would be adopting but-for gays, why aren't they adopting kids today?
I don't know if that's the case - my premise is that they're mostly competing with traditional families and that but-for gays the same babies would be getting adopted by traditional couples.
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:13 pm to RaoulDuke504
It's not just gays that have fetishises, baw.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:20 pm to Lexis Dad
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It's not just gays that have fetishises, baw.
Fair enough, but the entire "heterosexual lifestyle" is not dedicated to those fetishes like the homosexual lifestyle. The entire existence of gay men is to push the boundaries of depravity. As Milo Yianappolous said, the Greenwald video is actually pretty tame compared to what most gay men are doing behind closed doors. Think about that.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:21 pm to Pettifogger
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Short answer: The idea that it's a good use of time to try and have a thoughtful discussion that involves you.
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Longer answer: Acknowledging how American gay culture arose and how it contributed to the debauched nature of it now is not an excuse for said culture. When I talk about this stuff, I assume I'm talking about it with people largely like minded who can sort through the history and realities of a given thing without jumping to media-like talking points that I'm implying acceptance or tolerance for "underage stuff."
I understand what you want to believe. It would be nice if gay people simply had a different sexual attraction and, other than that, would align with the rest of society from a value standpoint. That's what I wish was the truth.
Unfortunately, that has proven to not be the case. And, when discussing the serious ramifications of the actual truth, it's harmful to attempt to rationalize the destructive behavior.
Society has 100% become somewhat "tolerant" of the "underage stuff". In fact, most won't even acknowledge it as a problem. Instead, you get passive defenses like "gays aren't the ONLY ones." or "There's plenty of 'underage stuff' in other walks of life." It has happened in this very thread.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I just listened to a podcast last night about a couple where the man was a sadistic rapist and his gf knew he liked virgins so she offered up her 15 year old sister (because they looked similar) to keep him. The women ended up killing the sister by using too much tranq (there are theories this was intentional due to her own psychopathy and jealousy over the guy's attraction to the sister) after they both raped her unconscious body. They did this a few more times (once she tranquilized a woman without him knowing and he came home to it and she said it was her engagement gift to him)
I know which couple you’re talking about, I think.
Canadian couple in the early-mid 90s? I believe the guy was like a rapper or something?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Who aren't adopting these kids today.
There's more parents wanting to adopt than children, specifically young children, available to be adopted.
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No, but my question still remains. This putative class can adopt today, in addition to gays adopting. Why aren't they?
Where are you getting your information that they aren't adopting?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:31 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Canadian couple in the early-mid 90s?
Yup
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I believe the guy was like a rapper or something?
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I think the rapper may have been a different story from Canada that involved cannibalism.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:34 pm to moneyg
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Unfortunately, that has proven to not be the case. And, when discussing the serious ramifications of the actual truth, it's harmful to attempt to rationalize the destructive behavior.
I really don't know what this means. I think gay people have perverse attractions. Perhaps they're more predisposed to fetishism and other debauchery by nature, I have no clue how to begin assessing that.
I do think it's rather apparent that there is a high degree of acceptance of these things in the more fervent, core institutions of that culture, and I think how that culture originated and developed played a pretty obvious role in that.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:37 pm to Pettifogger
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I really don't know what this means. I think gay people have perverse attractions. Perhaps they're more predisposed to fetishism and other debauchery by nature, I have no clue how to begin assessing that.
I do think it's rather apparent that there is a high degree of acceptance of these things in the more fervent, core institutions of that culture, and I think how that culture originated and developed played a pretty obvious role in that.
...and I'm saying it's not important with respect to the society harming aspects of the lifestyle.
WE (I include myself) allowed ourselves to believe that homosexuality was limited to a person's private life and that, as a whole, we wouldn't bear a cost to supporting the lifestyle.
I believe in hindsight, that decision has been destructive.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:46 pm to moneyg
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...and I'm saying it's not important with respect to the society harming aspects of the lifestyle.
I think saying things that are likely true are important. I think you're assuming I have some defense motive here when I don't - I just like knowing or at least postulating on how various aspects of our culture got to this point. It would be the same, with say, black culture in America. I would start at slavery and some people wouldn't like that very much, even though it's not an intention of mine to "excuse" the current plight of black communities or blame someone else for their current state.
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WE (I include myself) allowed ourselves to believe that homosexuality was limited to a person's private life and that, as a whole, we wouldn't bear a cost to supporting the lifestyle.
I believe in hindsight, that decision has been destructive.
Well yeah. To me this fits squarely with all the other post-liberal, post-individualism awakenings happening on the right.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:50 pm to Pettifogger
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I think saying things that are likely true are important. I think you're assuming I have some defense motive here when I don't - I just like knowing or at least postulating on how various aspects of our culture got to this point. It would be the same, with say, black culture in America. I would start at slavery and some people wouldn't like that very much, even though it's not an intention of mine to "excuse" the current plight of black communities or blame someone else for their current state.
Certainly, you understand that some (whether you are a part of that or not) have accepted amazingly negative culture/behavior within the black population because of the reasoning of how we got here, no?
It goes to my original point. This is EXACTLY how we got here...even if you are capable of thinking, discussing the topic and still being willing to radically change the path we've taken over the last few decades.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:13 pm to moneyg
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Certainly, you understand that some (whether you are a part of that or not) have accepted amazingly negative culture/behavior within the black population because of the reasoning of how we got here, no?
I guess I would differentiate between sober assessment and people looking to excuse or defend. But I know what you're trying to say and I think it's true that sure, many of these exercises become what you're talking about.
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It goes to my original point. This is EXACTLY how we got here...even if you are capable of thinking, discussing the topic and still being willing to radically change the path we've taken over the last few decades.
I don't think I agree with that. I don't think these are the exact same things, because I think most of the contingents you're referring to set off with the ambition/intention of getting to a desired result. In other words, they were always feigned "honest assessments/reflection" rather than legitimate efforts to find the historical underpinnings of a given movement/issue. Again, I understand your point, but I don't see that there is a viable alternative.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:55 pm to King George
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Good thing you don't have to be literate to get into heaven.
True. It also bears mentioning a literate person would know the difference between illiteracy and improper grammar.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:02 am to Basura Blanco
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It's wildly dumb that you think who they frick is what they are proud about
You're right, it's totally not about that.
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