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Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:50 pm to Joshjrn
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In over a decade of practice, I’ve seen exactly two people max out the BAC reading on an Intoxilyzer. You have to be a blinding, every day alcoholic to hit those kind of numbers and be conversational.
And even that conversation would be sloppy as hell…
This isn’t a functional alcoholics might slip by unnoticed situation - it’s that a normal persons falling down and the hardcore alcoholics just seem drunk
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:50 pm to Ingeniero
Come on Baw!
That's an epic handling of your drink that you should be proud of.
Could have come in handy in College, if you had attended.
That's an epic handling of your drink that you should be proud of.
Could have come in handy in College, if you had attended.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:03 pm to Pelican fan99
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Also how many jobs would make you blow without suspicion first? Couldn’t imagine very many
I've had two, one while working for a local city in central Arkansas and one as a US Marshal. In both instances the breathalyzer was an "add-on" to the random drug tests and didn't require any suspicion, just your name to be drawn randomly that testing period.
To put it in more plain terms - about 6 to 8 people (out of 50+ in my department) would be selected for random drug screens and out of those, 2 or 3 would also have to take the breathalyzer along with the pee tests. It was completely random every time as far as those that had to pee in a cup for drug testing, but then those 6 to 8 names were also put into the hat and chosen randomly to blow in the breathalyzer.
The 3 times out of dozens of chances to be chosen randomly for drug screens that I've had, I had to blow in the breathalyzer once.
Probably TMI, but this will give a little backstory to those wondering why a company/management would breathalyze someone they don't suspect of any wrongdoing
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:10 pm to RazorBroncs
I was working on a Chevron project years ago and they were treating it as if it was already offshore and on any given week I would have to do a breath test 2-3 times a week since I was one of the commuters. Oddly the only people I can recall failing were Chevron employees. None of the contractors ever failed.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:15 pm to Ingeniero
You lose about .015 BAC per hour. If you blew a .249 and then retested later you'd take .249-(.015xH) where H is the number of hours between tests. As others have said, it'll take a good bit of time to blow 0.0 BAC from .249, so a good argument can be made that the first test was flawed.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:17 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Might be hard to win in an at will employment state but that guy might want to go for defamation of character.
Nope. They gave him a reason he was fired (a failed blood alcohol test). If he really took a test within an hour and it proved he wasn’t then he will win.
In at will states you should never give a reason they were fired. All that does is open yourself up to a suit.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:17 pm to Ingeniero
If this is a real situation, what legitimate manager wouldn't hear a result like that and look at the employee closely. You would be able to tell right away. And what Manager wouldn't want to hear a second test before firing the person?
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:35 pm to Ingeniero
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left work and went to a clinic to prove the false reading and blew a 0.00% 1 hour later.
They were okay with him leaving, assuming he was driving, after blowing three times the legal limit?
That’s also absurd and possibly a liability issue in and of itself .
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:41 pm to Obtuse1
quote:I don’t drink at all and haven’t in years. I’m also not Walt.
Probably when he was playing Tigergirl10 since she weighs less.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:55 pm to NoSaint
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And even that conversation would be sloppy as hell…
This isn’t a functional alcoholics might slip by unnoticed situation - it’s that a normal persons falling down and the hardcore alcoholics just seem drunk
So, maybe. One of the people I'm talking about who maxed out the machine I didn't clock as intoxicated at all before he was tested. After I knew the results and paid closer attention, it was kind of like "yeah, I guess his eyes are a little glassy and he's slurring a little bit...". But steady on his feet, coherent, etc. And I say that as someone who has spent hours upon hours watching DWI BWC video. I knew what I was looking for and still didn't see much.
But you have to be straight up pickled lever alcoholic to reach that point. Again, only seen it once in over a decade.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:20 pm to Joshjrn
Heavy drinkers can blow that the next day after drinking. But they def would have had other issues that prob would have led to a test because they are heavy drinkers.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:25 pm to Ingeniero
Ketoacidosis?
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:20 pm to Ingeniero
The odd part to me is that they tested him at work. Anytime I’ve been pulled for a random I had to go to the third party clinic within the hour to do the drug/alcohol screen.
Sounds like he’s taking the fall for some shitty upper management or they just needed an excuse to get rid of him to replace with DEI hire
Sounds like he’s taking the fall for some shitty upper management or they just needed an excuse to get rid of him to replace with DEI hire
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:34 pm to BigBinBR
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In at will states you should never give a reason they were fired. All that does is open yourself up to a suit.
Meh. If they made him take a breathalyzer and he failed, and they fired him on the spot, the reason is obvious.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:09 pm to Ingeniero
So, these folks actually administer their own drug and alcohol tests? We sub these out to third party experts to prevent just such a thing…
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:27 pm to Ingeniero
If you were fired, asked to leave, and weren't drunk, then why did you take an Uber to the clinic? Let them go ahead and call the cops on you.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:05 pm to Cracker
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Put a drop of vodka in the breathalyzer before he blows would do that
Rubbing alcohol residue in the mouthpiece? Could that cause the false positive? Though I would imagine they're supposed to use a new sterile mouthpiece for testing.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:16 pm to Ingeniero
If someone blows a .249, they to be obviously drunk.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:25 pm to DeafJam73
Corporate oil in gas.. office worker .. random drug test done daily for employees . you would usually get called in once every six months.. when called your supervisor would have to come tell you and you had a one hour time limit to report to the medical office. If failed you stayed in the room until a security officer came to walk you out of the building.
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