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re: Which Martial Arts are useful in a real fight and which ones are Bulshido?

Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:25 pm to
I think you're missing the point of Karate, Kung-Fu, Judo, and Taekwondo. They are about self-defense. They were developed by monks in order to protect themselves from attacks and thieves without killing others. A pretty noble endeavor in my opinion.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:26 pm to
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The art of invisibility. You can’t hit what you can’t see.




I see you have read the Amorous Adventures of Ashida Kim.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:27 pm to
Shut up Ralph
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:27 pm to
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They were developed by monks in order to protect themselves from attacks and thieves without killing others. A pretty noble endeavor in my opinion.
Too bad your heroes, the Soviets, weren't noble in this manner.
Posted by G I Jeaux
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:27 pm to
45caladoyo
Posted by Eightballjacket
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:36 pm to
Your little martial arts plans go out the window when your opponent lands his first punch to your face.
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:37 pm to
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Karate


Don't confuse after school daycare Karate with real Karate.
Posted by VooDude
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:41 pm to
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Let's get a definitive list, and hopefully provide a valuable public service for the poor TD posters who are shelling out money to earn that 5th Dan in Aikido.

Useful in a streetfight or MMA-

Boxing
Wrestling
Muay Thai
Lethwei (Google it, this shite is brutal)
Jujitsu
Brazilian Jujitsu
Combat Sambo
Krav Maga- (I'm iffy on this one, because it's nearly impossible to create live sparring).
Judo


Will get your arse kicked-

Kung-fu (it looks cool in the movies, but worthless overall and this includes Jeet Kune Do)
Karate- (is only effective if the opponent is also using Karate)
Ninjitsu- NINJAS AREN'T REAL, Grow Up
Capoeira- Lol, seriously GTFO
Anything Chi- Your grandma doesn't even think this works.
Anything that ends in DO (besides Judo)- Look, this might be hard to accept, but all of these are complete bullshite.


Feel free to add to either list
Did muay thai for about 4 years, most spent at a top gyms [Sitan/ Rebel] in NY pre pandemic. Sparred 3-4 times a week and man those were the days. Never have or plan on being in a street fight, but the confidence you have knowing you can take care of yourself is life changing. Very therapeutic too...


Would recommend a combination of muay thai and BJJ since most street fights allegedly go to the ground from what I've heard and you reduce the risk of criminal charges since you just contain the person with the option of putting to sleep, whereas muay thai is a little "direct". Tried BJJ a few times, but the learning curve was just too much and preferred striking.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 6:52 pm
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:44 pm to
My Psychopower knows no limits..
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:46 pm to
Why don’t you go pick a fight with a black belt in each category….and report back on how things worked out for you

Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:49 pm to
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I see you have read the Amorous Adventures of Ashida Kim.


Nope.

Ninja Turtles
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:53 pm to
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martial arts where you have knives or a hatchet or a lovely engraved steel samurai style sword.

they all are solid until the other guy has machine pistol.


Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:59 pm to
In the early days of MMA they allowed all styles of fighting and had no weight classes. After a few years it was clear that wrestling/grappling was king. All the pure boxers got destroyed as did the kickboxers. And kung-fu/karate types fared even worse.

These days every MMA fighter focuses on wrestling and submission holds because it's what actually works. They call it "Brazilian Jiujitsu," but it's basically just wrestling.

By the way, early UFC was much more interesting. No rules (except eye gouging), no weight classes, and no timed rounds.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Any grappling based fighting style becomes almost useless if there are more than 2 assailants.


Grapplers train in escaping bottom positions. If one dude is on top of you while his buddies are kicking you, knowledge of leverage and body position allows you to get that guy off you, so you can get to your feet.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:05 pm to
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Feel free to add to either list


Vols&Shaft83-DO

Worthless and full of shite.
Posted by Gaggle
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:08 pm to
Tae-Bo
Tai Chi
Yoga (Dhalsim)
Chessboxing
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:24 pm to
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Grapplers train in escaping bottom positions.


I'd phrase it that grapplers train in being very uncomfortable, and not panicking.

If you allow multiple people to get close enough to control you, you have failed in learning .45ACP. Back. The. frick. Off.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:32 pm to
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How many bar fights actually involve ground grappling?


Probably damn near all of them.
Posted by Schmelly
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:33 pm to
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Jujitsu
Brazilian Jujitsu


Uhhhhhh
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:34 pm to
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Did muay thai for about 4 years, most spent at a top gyms [Sitan/ Rebel] in NY pre pandemic. Sparred 3-4 times a week and man those were the days.


As far as pure striking goes, it's hard to beat Muay Thai. Burmese Muay Thai, or Lethwei, is much more intense. The art of 9 Limbs.

In addition to being allowed to strike with fists, elbows, knees, and feet..headbutting is also allowed.

No pads or gloves, only tape and gauze allowed.

No point system, Can only win by KO.


Wouldn't frick with Myanmar fighters.
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