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re: "When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?"

Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78033 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:35 am to
quote:

100% preventable.
This.

Had he not stolen the car, he would be alive.

In Scruffy’s opinion, this thief committed suicide.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 10:35 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78033 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:36 am to
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Did you do dumb things when you were 17?
Scruffy has never stolen anything in his life, let alone a car.

There are massive degrees of “dumb things”, and then there are criminal acts.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:39 am to
Agreed
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:39 am to
quote:

I'd never be a juror on this type of case if the woman sues. Even if it was a bad shooting, I'm not going to give money to someone who was in the middle of this type of crime.



You could do like the Dallas jurors in the garage guy playing rap music that was killed by the cops. Award 4 cents to the family. 1 cent to each child and 1 cent for funeral expenses.

Award this sister 1 cent for her loss, then assess taxation on it before disbursement.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:41 am to
You don’t know how you’d feel after taking a human life, justified or not, until you have. Anyone saying otherwise is just trying to act billy badass.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41863 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:42 am to
In Palm Beach County you'd have to get arrested for stealing 25 or 26 cars before you go to prison.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:43 am to
quote:

billy badass.


sums up most OT threads
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33219 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:43 am to
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You don’t know how you’d feel after taking a human life, justified or not, until you have. Anyone saying otherwise is just trying to act billy badass.

I'm not a bad arse at all. I'm just not sympathetic when it comes to criminals. Now if I killed someone in a car wreck or some other type accident then sure I would be a mess.
Posted by Imtheonly1
GEISMAR
Member since May 2018
61 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:45 am to
I’d rather he not steal the car in the first place. All car thieves should ask themselves if this vehicle is worth dying over.



Chances are the number of stolen cars would drop.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11248 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:48 am to
quote:

You don’t know how you’d feel after taking a human life


We had a lengthy discussion about this in my CHL class. I used to be in the mindset that if you stole from me than I was justified in popping a cap in that arse. However, I am not sure anymore because this is something that will always be with you. Is a car worth a life? To some, I guess it is. Now, I guess my thinking is I am not going to engage unless my life or my families life is in danger.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:51 am to
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All car thieves should ask themselves if this vehicle is worth dying over.

Chances are the number of stolen cars would drop.




And all responsible gun owners should ask themselves if their vehicle is worth shooting someone over.

The Christian side of me hopes the number of "justified homicides" would drop.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71839 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:

This.

Had he not stolen the car, he would be alive.

In Scruffy’s opinion, this thief committed suicide.


I'm fine with this logic as long as you agree that the fireman begged to have his car stolen by leaving it unlocked and running unattended.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

The Christian side of me hopes the number of "justified homicides" would drop.


Glad I am agnostic.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

I'm just not sympathetic when it comes to criminals.


I didn’t say you were. It’s a bit different when you’re the one killing someone though. Like I said, justified or not, that shite will stay with you.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:57 am to
quote:

However, I am not sure anymore because this is something that will always be with you. Is a car worth a life? To some, I guess it is. Now, I guess my thinking is I am not going to engage unless my life or my families life is in danger.


Precisely what I’m saying.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:58 am to
Do these media outlets go out in an attempt to find the most ignorant arse motherfrickers possible to interview? Or does the media just serve as a magnet for these people to flock toward?
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

I'm fine with this logic as long as you agree that the fireman begged to have his car stolen by leaving it unlocked and running unattended.


homicide aside, which person in either scenario violated a right of the other

Thief steals car
Person starts car and runs back inside


Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:06 am to
TH-

Interesting Read

Completely unrelated story I came across but I thought you'd be interested. Long story not-so-short, 21 yr old buys a gun and gets conceal license. Goes to a party and decides to carry rather than leave the gun unattended in vehicle.

Fight breaks out nearby and while attempting to alert others that police are on their way, he is attacked from behind. He ends up shooting someone in what he thought was self defense. He is arrested and charged with murder.

Dad says original defense costs nearly 150K and the civil case cost an additional 100K.

I also thought this was interesting.

quote:

A jury acquitted Bryce Fortier of murder and manslaughter. However, when asked to rule whether the shooting was justified, a procedural step that determines if a defendant should be reimbursed court costs, the jury did not agree that Fortier acted in self-defense.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:08 am to
Cop cars are often left running at the curb while they are working a call. I’m fairly certain they aren’t locked.

You wouldn’t say a cop was begging for it if only because any crook who tried it would get a bullet in the arse.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12217 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:13 am to
When did they stop hanging horse thieves?
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