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re: "When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?"

Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:49 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79071 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:49 am to
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If a thug tries to steal a penny off of me, that penny becomes worth more than the thug’s life.


I like the way you think
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:50 am to
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but im sure Chicago fire lieutenant will get off easy.


Exactly. That’s the only thing I have an issue with. Any random person gets thrown in jail for this. Fireman gets special treatment.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16194 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:51 am to
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“She’s traumatized about it,” Walker said. “I get that. I couldn’t imagine watching a little boy dying in front of me either.”


I don't consider a 17 year old stealing a car a "little boy"

Chalk this up to the good guys. Another thug POS off the skreets.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65881 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:52 am to
eh, should have waited until he graduated to murder and THEN shot him.

of course that doesn't help the person he murders but,hey at least he got shot for something other than a car.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:54 am
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:55 am to
Isn’t your car considered an extension of your home?
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17155 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:56 am to
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quote:
Illinois’ “use of force” statute, which says a person is justified in using force to defend his life or the life of another if they reasonably fear similar force against them is imminent.



This doesn’t really fit.


If the firefighter was in the forward area (like 180 degrees, the front) of the vehicle and the vehicle was in "drive" that places the deadly weapon in motion towards the firefighter, i.e., an attempt on the life of the firefighter. Firefighter was taking an evasive action AND firing in self defense at same time.
quote:

"Vehicle starts to move forward. (The firefighter) moves to the left and draws his concealed firearm and fires one shot through the driver’s window.”
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:57 am to
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Another thug POS off the skreets.



And an honest hard working man becomes a murderer.


Over a vehicle.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85010 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:57 am to
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I should have used the word "human"

True. My point was I find it interesting that when those who seemingly defend the "humans" who are stealing/mugging/assaulting, etc., they tend to refer to them as "kids". Almost like to lessen their culpability for doing things, like stealing cars, or even carjacking.

I bet that of the people posting on here that have "kids", 99.9999999999999999% have kids that although they did stupid things, never stole a vehicle from a stranger. Stealing cars goes beyond the old dumb things kids do when growing up, imo.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:58 am to
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Isn’t your car considered an extension of your home?


No
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:00 am to
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Isn’t your car considered an extension of your home?


No


in many states yes, but this isnt really an example of it being an extension of the home. moreso related to what you keep in it, searches, etc...
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:01 am to
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17-year-old Charles Macklin, was killed while trying to steal a Jeep


Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15166 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:02 am to
I have an idea. Don't take what's not yours and this POS would be alive. Is this really THAT hard to understand?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65881 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:03 am to
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s this really THAT hard to understand?



apparently for some folks it is
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:03 am to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 6:14 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:07 am to


At this point claim temp insanity.
Leaving car running in Chicago proves insanity.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124145 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:07 am to
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When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?” she asked. “Even if (Macklin) did that, if he did steal the car. You’ve got insurance — let him go to jail. I would’ve rather had to get a call to go bail him out of jail than to get a phone call that he’s dead.”



Bet he won’t steal Anymore cars
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:08 am to
That’s a lot of ifs that you’ve inferred from that statement. Not that you’re wrong or anything, we just don’t know.

I still think someone who isn’t a firefighter or cop stands trial, and that’s not fair. I should be able to protect myself from threats just the same.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:09 am to
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Bet he won’t steal Anymore cars


Grand theft auto meets the walking dead.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:11 am to
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funny, I would say it isn't worth losing your life over


That too.

1. Don't steal cars
2. Don't shoot people over cars.

both concepts are not hard to understand.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:14 am to
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Well.. If he drove AT him it isn't illegal. If he was driving off, illegal.


Jury nullification if I sat on the case.
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