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"When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?"

Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:19 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:19 am
quote:

17-year-old Charles Macklin, was killed while trying to steal a Jeep from a Chicago fire lieutenant on the West Side last August. The lieutenant had left the Jeep running, and Macklin jumped behind the wheel.

The lieutenant ran in front of the Jeep and shouted, “Get out,” according to a police report. When Macklin began pulling away, the lieutenant drew his gun and fired through the open driver’s side window, hitting the teen in the chest.


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When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?” she asked. “Even if (Macklin) did that, if he did steal the car. You’ve got insurance — let him go to jail. I would’ve rather had to get a call to go bail him out of jail than to get a phone call that he’s dead.”


quote:

Walker, 20, has organized protests, started a Facebook page and launched a hashtag on Twitter. She says she hasn’t given up hope of getting justice for her brother.


Chicago Tribune

enjoy...

Another interesting article, "39,000 homicides: Retracing 60 years of murder in Chicago"
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:20 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35587 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:21 am to
quote:

I would’ve rather had to get a call to go bail him out of jail than to get a phone call that he’s dead.”


i'd rather you raise your kid to not be a criminal.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10001 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:22 am to
Play stupid games.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:22 am to
Something about games and prizes and all that
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6512 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:22 am to
frick him one less piece of shite for me to support
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17913 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:22 am to
It hasn’t become legal........... but it should be.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18327 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:22 am to
The lieutenant was in front of the vehicle and it started moving forward?

That’s a bit different than shooting the guy for stealing a car.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58304 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:23 am to
Better question is why can’t you shoot someone stealing your property?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21853 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:23 am to
quote:

When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?” she asked

When has it ever been legal to steal someone else's car?

quote:

“Even if (Macklin) did that, if he did steal the car. You’ve got insurance

Not everyone carries full coverage.



Play stupid games....win stupid prizes.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27348 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:23 am to
Well.. If he drove AT him it isn't illegal. If he was driving off, illegal.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78893 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:24 am to
There is almost a 100% chance that had he decided NOT to steal someone's car, he'd be alive today.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1449 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:24 am to
I get why some would shoot. I however, probably would have left my firearm where it was. The shooters life will be forever changed even though the choice he made was lawful. I would not want that on my conscience.

Now if the kid was trying to run me over with my own vehicle then that's a different story.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1783 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:25 am to
I'll say again that it is because of incidents like this that I believe we will have another civil war at some point.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32015 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:26 am to
he gone
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:26 am to
quote:

When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?” she asked


When they are moving in your direction behind the wheel of a deadly weapon. Doesn't even have to be directly at the shooter since vehicles are able to maneuver and not just travel in a single straight line. If the shooter was in front and the driver swerves in an attempt to run over or the shooter steps aside to avoid being run over, dead to rights to shoot!

Automobiles have long been considered a form of "deadly weapon" and the recent terror attacks killing multiple victims using vehicles as a weapon bear out the justification of the designation.

Stupidity and/or grief does not change facts. Dead guy was an idiot and a criminal. World is a better place without them.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:26 am to
Meh, kids can change, most likely he wont but a car inst worth shooting someone over IMO.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:26 am to
It's not.

but im sure Chicago fire lieutenant will get off easy.

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Lt. Matthew Boerwinkle, a spokesman for the Illinois state police, said it would not be appropriate for his agency to comment, even though it oversees the issuance of concealed carry permits. He responded with a copy of the Illinois’ “use of force” statute, which says a person is justified in using force to defend his life or the life of another if they reasonably fear similar force against them is imminent.


So unless you're in front of the car and he is running you over... that's homicide.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32506 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:26 am to
The reasoning of these people is so stupid it’s pitiable
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:27 am to
Exactly. And one day when you trade that car in for a new one how you gonna feel killing someone over it.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:30 am to
quote:

I feel like we definitely need justice for Charles


He got Justice. Street Justice.
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