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re: What was the point of the European Union?

Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:15 am to
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11432 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:15 am to
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I’m not sure what one would be seeing to possibly infer such a thing.


Compared to every other major combatant of WW2, the US got off easy We really, really did.

But the trauma from that conflict drives a whole lot of political policy across the entire globe, right up until the present day.

Even if you don't see it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281953 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:17 am to
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Why is the EU pushing continued war in Ukraine?

Anybody calling for peace gets called a Putin sympathizer.


LINK
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The frustration of the Obama administration at Europe’s hesitant policy over the pro-democracy protests in Ukraine has been laid bare in a leaked phone conversation between two senior US officials, one of whom declares: “frick the EU”.

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The conversation underlines mounting US frustration at the EU’s position on the ongoing democracy protests in Ukraine. The EU has held back from joining US threats to impose sanctions should the Ukrainian regime violently suppress the protests.


The propaganda machine is solid, the citizenry are dumb, so the narrative will continue on.

Its our mess. We orchestrated it, fought against EU desires, used force to gain influence and now we claim victimhood.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60825 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:32 am to
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In your own words what was the goal in the creation of the European Union?



To pool economic power together in order to compete in the global marketplace, but also, and more importantly to govern so that a common agenda is forced upon ALL sovereign powers. It is all under the guise of that which is beneficial to all united, but the real end result is being seen as we speak in the fanatical regulations on travel, green legislation, and radical micro governing of people’s lives that are on the horizon for all of Europe. When someone says you have to be climate neutral in 30 years, and those proposing these restrictions enjoy a lifestyle that most in Europe do not, and yet want to blanket it on all of EU citizens, you begin to understand there are agendas afoot that simply do not care about YOU in the least. It’s always about the ruling class and those tied at their hip enriching themselves, and controlling you like a marionette tied to the ends of their fingers.


In the infamous words of Tears for Fears, “Everybody wants to rule the world”


Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 11:57 am to
Compete with the US economically.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15833 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Globalism


Keeping us from getting to a WWIII. TYFS
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6196 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:03 pm to
It put Europe in balance with the U.S., Russia, and China.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80255 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:15 pm to
The goal is to flood Europe with immigrants and create a new unified third world communist non-white shithole
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130276 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:18 pm to
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To create a unified political, economic, and military bloc in hopes of avoiding the types of large scale regional conflicts that plagued Europe for most of recorded history.




I be fair, the same stuff has plagued everywhere else too absent a strong empire.


You either have a bunch of petty tyrants, or one big tyrant (who appoints a bunch of petty tyrants)
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16665 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:21 pm to
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illegal invasion.




All invasions by definition are illegal to the country being invaded.

If China invaded Taiwan, Taiwan would view it as illegal whereas China would view it as legal to bring them back into the fold.

You definitely have that lawyer talk down.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8024 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:22 pm to
To keep the Germans and the French from being at each others throats. Get as much of Europe tied together economically so its bad for everyone if a war breaks out.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15852 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:25 pm to
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other and it's worked. Ukraine is a non-EU state (that will eventually be an EU state)


Well half of it at least.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:29 pm to
Economically…. Freer movement of capital and labor, less red tape at borders, etc.

Brexit has been a disaster for the UK by any measure. Even it’s supporters now admit it.


Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144654 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:30 pm to
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To create a unified political, economic, and military bloc in hopes of avoiding the types of large scale regional conflicts that plagued Europe for most of recorded history.

Yet here we are with Ukraine and the EU desperate to continue that conflict


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Yet here we are with Ukraine and the EU desperate to continue that conflict

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281953 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Brexit has been a disaster for the UK by any measure. Even it’s supporters now admit it.


Depends on what you prefer. Freedom or more financial aid.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57866 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:48 pm to
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What was the point of the European Union?
an excuse for European leaders to have conferences where they can have gay sex
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
12447 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:57 pm to
Writing a paper for your class?
Here: Wiki EU

Don’t forget to use Grammarly
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12683 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Allow Germany to subsidize Italy, Spain and Greece


Forgot Portugal. Pasty Germans have to vacation somewhere.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 2:26 pm to
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The give poor EU countries a chance to get into richer EU countries pockets.


That’s a two way street, Germany has greatly benefited from a giant free market for their exports
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
5732 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 3:16 pm to
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You do what the US did prior to invading Iraq and go before the UN, state your case then have the other member nations vote.

Russia, who also has a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, could have done this… but instead they chose to go all cloak and dagger.




Just being tongue in check, I don't Vlad, Kim and many other world leaders are too concerned about what's considered legal to the UN.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39201 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 3:20 pm to
To economically and politically compete with the US.
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