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re: What is the solution to homelessness?
Posted on 7/9/22 at 11:40 am to philly444
Posted on 7/9/22 at 11:40 am to philly444
Seattle is Dying
This is an hour long, it is the best explanation of what 'homelessness' is that I have ever seen. Basically, it's a drug problem, not a housing one. The solution seems practical and as lot cheaper than all current methods.
This is an hour long, it is the best explanation of what 'homelessness' is that I have ever seen. Basically, it's a drug problem, not a housing one. The solution seems practical and as lot cheaper than all current methods.
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 11:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The problem isn't just the drugs, its subsidizing users and not allowing citizens to defend property with deadly force.
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Around 10:40 p.m., the homeowner was sleeping and was startled by someone at the front door trying to get in, Mancuso said. Video captured the man attempting to enter through the front door, Mancuso said.
“The homeowner eventually comes out of the house with a gun, walks around the front of the house, sees a Black, male subject in his garage/shop area, confronts (the man),” Mancuso said. “It’s obvious, you can’t hear what’s going on, but he’s telling him to get out.”
When Tezeno approached the homeowner, the homeowner fired a shot into the ground, “like a warning shot,” Mancuso said. Tezeno continued to approach the homeowner and the homeowner shot him twice, the Sheriff said.
Tezeno, a McNeese student from Lake Arthur, was “by all accounts, a good kid,” Mancuso said.
“We don’t believe this person was truly trying to break into this house,” Mancuso said. “We believe he was extremely intoxicated.”
“Evidently he has too much to drink and goes to the wrong house. We really don’t know and we may never know what he was trying to do to get in this house, but the homeowner doesn’t know that. Homeowner by all accounts is startled, thinks someone is trying to break into his house and in Louisiana you have the right to defend your home and yourself and that’s what we believe he was doing.”
Mancuso is asking anyone who lives in the area who has surveillance cameras to contact the Sheriff’s Office.
Mancuso said he does not anticipate arresting the homeowner. He said once the investigation is complete, it will be turned over to the Calcasieu District Attorney’s Office.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 11:49 am to philly444
Re-open asylums. Throw the trannies in with them. Mental illness should be properly treated, not celebrated.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 11:49 am to andouille
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Seattle is Dying
This is an hour long
Its shocking what has happened to Seattle over 20 years.
The commies moved in for the 1999 Seattle WTO protests and never left.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:05 pm to CoachChappy
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if you didn't work, you didn't eat.
Actually biblical 2 Thessalonians 3:10
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:06 pm to philly444
Ship them to more climate friendly locations like Los Angeles and San Diego. It’s the humane thing to do.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:12 pm to philly444
Round them up off the street and put the addicts in a holding facility until they are clean. Then a halfway house where they are monitored and given public works jobs like paving roads and cutting grass in parks. They get paid for it. Once they seem healthy and can afford an apartment they can go about their own lives. Involuntary commitment for the ones who have mental problems beyond drug addiction.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:16 pm to philly444
Sell them into slavery.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:54 pm to philly444
Man I often pray about this one. I don’t think there’s a great answer. The majority of junkies are also severely mentally ill in addition to their addictions. We used to institutionalize these people but that practice was halted due to the atrocities that occurred in those hospitals.
We should definitely start with more fathers at home, encourage authentic male leadership and value based on who the person is as opposed to what they have, obviously crack down on the borders too.
After that, how do you deal with mentally deranged people? They can’t live at home, can’t hold a job, and we can’t put them into a home against their will.
We should definitely start with more fathers at home, encourage authentic male leadership and value based on who the person is as opposed to what they have, obviously crack down on the borders too.
After that, how do you deal with mentally deranged people? They can’t live at home, can’t hold a job, and we can’t put them into a home against their will.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 12:56 pm to philly444
Ask Singapore
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:00 pm to philly444
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Stop building luxury homes and build more budget housing?
define affordable and how does this help the homeless?
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:02 pm to philly444
Bring back mental health facilities where people can be involuntarily committed. At some point this has been deemed inhumane. Now the mental health facility is the street.
Also, democrats. The welfare state is ruining the family unit and destroying the country.
Also, democrats. The welfare state is ruining the family unit and destroying the country.
This post was edited on 7/9/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:05 pm to philly444
Personal responsibility and changing from hand-outs to hand-ups for ones who are mentally competent. Ones who aren’t likely need to be committed rather than have “community health.”
An awful lot of homeless are this way by choice, as a number of organizations will help someone out with food, shelter, and/or other things as long as they can stay clean from drugs / alcohol and behave themselves. A lot of people refuse to do that.
Areas like San Fran having handouts for beggars and tolerating tent cities and the related issues such as street-shitting and crime pretty much means that these people can live the lifestyle they’re in without any need to change.
Enforcing vagrancy laws or tying handouts to being able to follow directions and work toward getting back into society would sure be better than what we are seeing.
The mentally ill? Limits as to what can be done there because there aren’t enough beds anymore, in part because of a big push to close or downsize state asylums in the 60s and 70s.
Someone who has issues but can be helped through meds and therapy to be a productive member of society should be lauded.
People who are downright insane and can’t take care of themselves should really be in a position to be institutionalized until they are in a position to take care of themselves.
Sounds cruel as hell but is it worse for a truly mentally ill person to be in an insane asylum or on the streets not taking care of themselves and a danger to others as well as in danger from people looking to abuse such individuals?
An awful lot of homeless are this way by choice, as a number of organizations will help someone out with food, shelter, and/or other things as long as they can stay clean from drugs / alcohol and behave themselves. A lot of people refuse to do that.
Areas like San Fran having handouts for beggars and tolerating tent cities and the related issues such as street-shitting and crime pretty much means that these people can live the lifestyle they’re in without any need to change.
Enforcing vagrancy laws or tying handouts to being able to follow directions and work toward getting back into society would sure be better than what we are seeing.
The mentally ill? Limits as to what can be done there because there aren’t enough beds anymore, in part because of a big push to close or downsize state asylums in the 60s and 70s.
Someone who has issues but can be helped through meds and therapy to be a productive member of society should be lauded.
People who are downright insane and can’t take care of themselves should really be in a position to be institutionalized until they are in a position to take care of themselves.
Sounds cruel as hell but is it worse for a truly mentally ill person to be in an insane asylum or on the streets not taking care of themselves and a danger to others as well as in danger from people looking to abuse such individuals?
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:06 pm to pwejr88
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It’s the same as the answer to poverty. Most people don’t want to address it and when they do they go about it the wrong way. The answer? Education
There’s never been a solution. There’s always been a large destitute class whether they’re called serfs, peasants, sharecroppers, homeless.
Education’s ability to ascend poverty is relative. If everyone held a Master’s degree, that would just create the floor.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:07 pm to philly444
Boil them in a pot.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:12 pm to JKLazurus
His diagnosis was correct but the answer to poverty isn’t education, it’s capitalism. Not crony-capitalism or capitalism infused with socialist policies, which only stunts the effects. Pure, unadulterated capitalism. It wouldn’t eliminate it, as nothing would, but it would minimize it.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:26 pm to philly444
1) Increase spending on mental health. Outpatient, AND Inpatient facilities and personnel.
2) Increase pressure on psychiatry (or anyone else who has the power of PEC) to take more forceful positions in forcing treatment by expanding the definition of “harm to self or others”. It HAS to be defined beyond merely posing an immediate threat of violence.
3) Create more homeless shelters and/or homeless areas.
4) Create (mostly resurrect) laws against homelessness and enforce them. Loitering laws, obstructing sidewalks, public drunkenness, public indecency, sleeping in parks, etc. You don’t have to lock people away for months, but it is a deterrent to homelessness if the homeless people get out in jail for a few weeks or a month, with a period of forced sobriety while in jail, and most of their homeless paraphernalia (trash) is disposed of. Offer them the alternative of the homeless shelters or homeless zones.
2) Increase pressure on psychiatry (or anyone else who has the power of PEC) to take more forceful positions in forcing treatment by expanding the definition of “harm to self or others”. It HAS to be defined beyond merely posing an immediate threat of violence.
3) Create more homeless shelters and/or homeless areas.
4) Create (mostly resurrect) laws against homelessness and enforce them. Loitering laws, obstructing sidewalks, public drunkenness, public indecency, sleeping in parks, etc. You don’t have to lock people away for months, but it is a deterrent to homelessness if the homeless people get out in jail for a few weeks or a month, with a period of forced sobriety while in jail, and most of their homeless paraphernalia (trash) is disposed of. Offer them the alternative of the homeless shelters or homeless zones.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:28 pm to philly444
I’ll tell you what’s not the answer, jumping them with a skate board
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:29 pm to philly444
There will always be people that don't want to work and would rather leach off everyone else.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 1:31 pm to philly444
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