re: What do you people have against solar farms?

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BFE

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I promise you, this Gillis project is in bfe.

Well I know in rural LA they are taking up farm land which causes the other farm land to to become more expensive to lease. If you don’t own land as a farmer it’s hard as hell to make money.

I don’t necessarily blame the land owners who lease it because they are getting some $500-1000 per acre to lease. Hard to pass up considering you can’t make that farming or leasing.

Then when the 30 year leases are up on the farm land and we have better energy production that land can’t be used to farm anymore. It’s riddled with concrete and metal from all the shite they put on it.

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Yeah I understand that but let’s not forget the monopoly the electric companies have. They can put solar farms anywhere

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Electric utilities are only looking to make money. When the Fed makes it more incentivizes solar for the utilities and utility investors then they will shift that direction.

If they were serious about producing more energy then they would build more gas plants.

From what I understand this might be different from other companies, but the company locally after 30 years picks up and leaves the solar panels out there for the landowner to dispose of. Like I said other companies might be different.

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mao.

Look at a turbine array in a farmer’s field. He can farm up to the beauty ring of rock at the base of the stairs. He can still utilize 90% of his land.

A solar farm covers the land.

Idk anything about dams, never worked in hydroelectric. But I’ve built wind farms and I’ve built PV

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He didn't say it was better for farming, he said it was better for the environment. Wind turbines frick up some bird populations bigly.

But I do know these solar cells require a lot of materials that aren't really good for the Earth to mine up. So I'm not taking a side, just pointing out you're talking about different things.

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Look at a turbine array in a farmer’s field. He can farm up to the beauty ring of rock at the base of the stairs. He can still utilize 90% of his land.

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And then he can look at all the dead birds that the turbine blades kill. Windmills aren't kind to our bird populations.

And it also depends on where the farms are located. Often, when we think of these things we think about the conditions in our local area. But it's a big country with lots a landscapes and habitats. For example, I live in a state that gets close to 300 days of sunshine a year, but less than 15" of rain. So most of the land isn't useable for crops without significant irrigation. However, you can put a solar farm there and make it productive because solar doesn't need water. But would that be the best solution from Nebraska to Iowa where the wind blows all the time? Likely not. There is no one size fit all solution.

There are large sections of the intermountain west that look just like this that would be perfect for solar.







I'm not saying I'm for or against either technology, I'm just making note of the consequences for each.

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They are trying to take away good farmland

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Take it away? Or the land owners are selling it? Are they being eminent domained?

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I occasionally pass by a solar farm on my way to work. About 3 weeks ago the grass was at least 3 feet high

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If they're native grasses, this is a great thing for the environment. Would be smart of the landowners to ensure that.

They are hideous, ruin usable land and have the potential to be environmental disaster waiting to happen.

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What do you people have against solar farms?

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Solar farms suck up all the solar energy in the area which causes wide spread crop failures and below freezing temperatures near the solar farms year round.

Texas A&M published a scientific study on the science of this phenomena several years ago...