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re: Was there really an Atlantis?

Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:53 pm to
Bookmarked. I love this stuff.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:54 pm to
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a site off the coast of Spain, and the Richat structure in the Sahara.


I think Green Sahara or Spain are plausible. One thing that was mentioned was they had great wealth from trade. Who the hell would be trading with them if they were in the middle of the Atlantic?

The Spain hypothesis is very interesting
Posted by CharlesUFarley
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:56 pm to
Well, if it was a truly advanced civilization, it seems to have existed without coined money, because no coins have ever been found that anyone believed came from Atlantis. So, the most advanced and wealthiest maritime power of the ancient world doesn't seem to have used their own coinage in their vast trading with other nations, because coins survive and we have none. Nor are any Atlantian coins mentioned, to the best of my knowledge, in any ancient record that we can verify.

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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:00 pm to
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Something like the existence of a pre diluvian civilization has profound impacts on several facets of our modern society. Which makes it political


Count the # of times 'Atlantis' has been brought up in ANY political debate, conversation, campaign...

Unlike ancient Greek or Rome, which has direct through lines to our current day political concepts, what does Atlantis have? We can't even decide if it was real or not.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:00 pm to
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Well, if it was a truly advanced civilization, it seems to have existed without coined money, because no coins have ever been found that anyone believed came from Atlantis.


What does, for example, 400 feet of impacted earth do to tin or copper? It's absolutely possible for coins to be lost forever due to pressure, heat, time, etc.

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Nor are any Atlantian coins mentioned, to the best of my knowledge, in any ancient record that we can verify.


This is a better point imo. Although writings are easier to destroy into dust than coins.
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:01 pm to
They didn’t vote for net zero to avoid that!!!!
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:03 pm to
Interesting point

2 thoughts - 1) metals gets melted and reused - couple that with the fact that we don’t have real coinage from every civilization we actually know about… … 2) IF they were truly advanced (Atlanteans, or whatever civilization) - could they have converted to paper or digital money like we are trending towards???
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:04 pm to
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Bookmarked. I love this stuff.


It's well worth the watch. And I think she has a second part to it as well, but I haven't seen that one yet.

But honestly, I think it should essentially be considered settled at this point. I'm not saying that the Azores might not have been a part of this same culture, because Atlantis was composed of 10 separate kingdoms, but home base was certainly at the Eye of the Sahara. It matches everything we hear from Plato. So much so that this other guy named George Sarantitis recently retranslated the Timeaus Criteus and came to the same conclusion just going by the straight ancient Greek text. The route they took would have essentially been right through the northern half of Africa.

As the green Sahara transformed into the desert we see today, the people were pushed farther and farther East until they ended up in Egypt. Just like the Egyptians themselves say.
Posted by 308
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:05 pm to
OP here

Very sorry! I thought I was in OT when I started the thread.

Can someone who knows what they are doing move it to OT?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:05 pm to
Central America was Atlantis

Plato miscalculated
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:05 pm to
I think so, there’s enough references in historical text to believe it existed

I also think any remnants of it are long gone
Posted by Sunnyvale
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:06 pm to
Yes. I`ve Dreamed about it
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:06 pm
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:07 pm to
Historians said Troy was just a fable before Hank Scliemann found it.

On questions of ancient peoples and things, Im with the late great Donald Kagan ; Im going to defer to the wisdom of the ancient Greek and Roman sages until given a real reason not to. If Plato says Atlantis existed, then as far as I’m concerned, its up to you to prove otherwise.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:08 pm to
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Plato miscalculated


As did the OP apparently
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Yes. I`ve Dreamed about it
Edgar Cayce???

I thought you were dead?

Well, go Wildcats - right?

Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Well, if it was a truly advanced civilization, it seems to have existed without coined money, because no coins have ever been found that anyone believed came from Atlantis. So, the most advanced and wealthiest maritime power of the ancient world doesn't seem to have used their own coinage in their vast trading with other nations, because coins survive and we have none. Nor are any Atlantian coins mentioned, to the best of my knowledge, in any ancient record that we can verify.


I'm not sure what any of this means though. If you look at some of the things from pre-Dynastic Egyptian times they appear to have had highly advanced technology, but we don't see even any hieroglyphs or writing of any kind from this timeframe.

It was said that Atlantis was covered in orichalcium and that has been found in shipwrecks. Ingots of the stuff.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:11 pm to
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OP here

Very sorry! I thought I was in OT when I started the thread.

Can someone who knows what they are doing move it to OT?


It's doing pretty good here. Works either way at this point.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:12 pm to
Yes. It was destroyed in Noah's flood. It has been rebuilt in Antarctica by the Nephilim and is there right now.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:13 pm to
Freaking love Jahannah
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:13 pm to
No. Maybe it was pre Mycenae Crete or Thera, although Plato describes it as being beyond the Pillar of Heracles which would geographically disqualify those two.

Maybe it was Tartessos.

But almost certainly didn’t exist- it was a philosophical tool used my Plato
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