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re: Was there really an Atlantis?

Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:15 pm to
There's a whole group of them doing good work these days. Ben van Kerkwyk with Uncharted X is another excellent researcher. Jimmy Corsetti does some good work and Randal Carlson is great.

I have zero doubts at this point that we had an advanced civilization on this planet that was wiped out by the biblical flood. It seems absolutely conclusive.
Posted by JackDempsey
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:18 pm to
I am waiting for the link to Atlantis performed by Donovan.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:19 pm to
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What does, for example, 400 feet of impacted earth do to tin or copper? It's absolutely possible for coins to be lost forever due to pressure, heat, time, etc.


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This is a better point imo. Although writings are easier to destroy into dust than coins.


A vast, trading Maritime Power would have been conducting commerce in every corner of the known world. Their coins would have had high value everywhere they went. They would have trafficked with every other civilization and pre-civilization. Coins in significant numbers would have been scattered so far that no localized geological disaster would have removed them.

It is possible that they did not use coinage, but they most certainly would have used some kind of standardized, repeatable, durable, and distinctive medium of commerce, and at least some of that medium would not have been present at the calamity.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:23 pm to
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No


Yes. It's been found on old maps even.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:27 pm to
Ben is cool. I’ve pitched him a few shekels for his work.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:29 pm to
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Ben is cool. I’ve pitched him a few shekels for his work.


Same. His tale of two industries videos are frickin fantastic. He makes an argument that is absolutely conclusive, imo, that the dynastic Egyptians inherited their monuments and things, rather than developed them themselves.

I'm guessing that much of that stuff you see in Egypt like the collosal Ramses statues that are flawless and the like will have been the same sort of stuff you would have seen all across Northern Africa before the flood. And I imagine a lot of it is still there to be found under the sands.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:29 pm to
I just think you underestimate what cataclysmic events can do to the planet.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:31 pm to
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It is possible that they did not use coinage, but they most certainly would have used some kind of standardized, repeatable, durable, and distinctive medium of commerce, and at least some of that medium would not have been present at the calamity.


As I said, ingots of orichalcium have been found in shipwrecks. The exact alloy Plato claims they developed there and used to cover the walls of their city.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:32 pm to
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Yes. It's been found on old maps even.



So Atlantis is in Morocco?
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:32 pm to
Mauritania.



This is a map from Herodotus. The countries did not look the way they do today back then.

Here is a wider view of the "Eye of the Sahara" or the capitol of Atlantis, if you prefer.

This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:38 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:34 pm to
Don't you muddy this discussion up with your smarm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:35 pm to
Ok Ok OK..Algeria.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:37 pm to
I was told there would be no geography
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:39 pm to
The Sphinx was definitely built before the Pharaohs, that’s why they’re starting to cover up the erosion which totally was not made by sand.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:40 pm to
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Ok Ok OK..Algeria.


Listen dipshit, you're talking about a civilization comprised of 10 kingdoms. It was large.

What I have shown you is a map from Herodotus that puts Atlantis on the map in the same area we see the Eye of the Sahara that matches over 20 different descriptions Plato gave for the place down to the letter.

As someone else said, don't be a frickin douche.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:44 pm to
Goddamit Ed
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Goddamit Ed


He knows these things. He is looking at an ancient map and using modern geographical boundaries to try and cast doubt on it despite knowing damn well that the area in question is right there in the same region.

The guy is a collosal tool bag.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:57 pm to
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The Sphinx was definitely built before the Pharaohs,


Absolutely possible, but a giant stone structure raises questions about the "advanced" status of that precursor civilization.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:59 pm to
So, we know for fact certain that Israeli artifacts have been found in America

This is more controversial, but we also have evidence that cocoa (which is only found in the Americas) was found in the stomach of a mummified Egyptian

There is substantial evidence that points towards global trade in deep antiquity - the idea of a lost civilization is very probable (even without coins)

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