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re: Was there really an Atlantis?
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:03 am to AlterEd
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:03 am to AlterEd
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There were megalithic structures erected in Turkey at the same time Atlantis was said to exist.
To nail you down, this is the timeline you're going with for Atlantis?
And have you given up your prior argument on the location of Atlantis? You dropped that argument like a bad cold when presented with tough questions.
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:04 am to 308
Basically a myth. There’s little evidence that such a continent existed from what I can tell
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:07 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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What’s your knowledge on ancient civilizations? How much time have you spent on the topic?
An incredible amount on the Bronze Age, which is my favorite historical period.
I actually have a thread for a board with smart posters (the OT) about this topic (why men seem to drift to specific periods of time in their historical focus, with WW2 and the Civil War being the 2 most popular that I've seen). I thought about it after I saw Shane Gillis criticize liking the older periods of antiquity.
I have a side project going right now tracing the gods of the Mesopotamian antiquity through the ages. I'm guessing that you can trace these concepts through the saints of Christianity.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:08 am to VOR
This is the pragmatic approach. I stand here until evidence suggests otherwise.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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And have you given up your prior argument on the location of Atlantis? You dropped that argument like a bad cold when presented with tough questions.
No, I've already made the argument for it being in Mauritania. People can either accept it or not, I don't care. But that's where it was. Go watch the video I presented on the first or second page of this thread and get back to me.
There is no doubt that's where it is as it matches Platos words 20 different ways to the damn letter.
And yes, Tas Tepeler is 12,000 years old. Which means there were megalithic stone works erected in Turkey at the same time Atlantis was existing in Northwest Africa. So the idea that it couldn't have existed because "we know exactly when and where agriculture began" is pure bullshite. You yourself said that Tas Tepeler can only mean that you DON'T know exactly when and where agriculture began.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:09 am to SouthEasternKaiju
As I pointed out earlier, there isn't evidence of Atlantis OR all the accompanying civilizations (who weren't destroyed by mud or whatever) that would be required for Atlantis to thrive as has been reported. The best way to prove Atlantis exists would be to prove those civilizations existed, and work backward to Atlantis.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:11 am to AlterEd
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But that's where it was.
Other than being circles, there isn't much to support this.
How could an area that high up be an island? Just answer that.
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There is no doubt that's where it is as it matches Platos words 20 different ways to the damn letter.
Except, as I showed, the whole "island" part, which is the most important part of the Atlantean myth
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:12 am to AlterEd
Göbekli Tepe has rewritten our understanding of ancient history. And there’s still more being discovered.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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Other than being circles, there isn't much to support this.
Wrong.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:FWIW Plato's account was reconstruction from older Egyptian sources. We can assume there might be losses in translation. E.g., Pillars of Hercules referenced other straits. Perhaps including the Stenon Kasou?
You've previously quoted Plato. Why are you ignoring his quotes now?
Here is what Santorini may have looked like prior to the Theran eruption.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:13 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Göbekli Tepe has rewritten our understanding of ancient history. And there’s still more being discovered.
Yep. They have since found Karahan Tepe and Tas Tepeler and other sites that are even older. And there are a lot more.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:14 am to AlterEd
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Wrong.
How could that be an island?
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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How could that be an island?
The same way that this island in Canada is an island.
This post was edited on 4/19/26 at 8:17 am
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:16 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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But on the topic, the Azores ( Randall Carlson ) or the Eye of the Sahara ( Jimmy Corsetti ) are the top 2 candidates.
I believe it’s possible both were cities of some advanced civilization(s?) that were trading globally and were influenced by the same “Gods” who either built or inspired the pyramids that were spread across the world at some point in antiquity and the people eliminated due to some calamity.
I’m not sure how they fit in with the “Sea People” who also likely played a major disruptive role in our history by invading and toppling numerous civilizations in the Mediterranean.
I also suspect that the Smithsonian has at times failed to disclose artifacts that would shed additional light on what we’re discussing so I’m mostly just speaking to things that *could* be true but that aren’t fully proven and could easily be incorrect.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:17 am to NC_Tigah
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FWIW Plato's account was reconstruction from older Egyptian sources.
As with almost everything Greek from that era.
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We can assume there might be losses in translation. E.g., Pillars of Hercules referenced other straits. Perhaps including the Stenon Kasou?
Yeah ignoring the entire "this is just a parable" part of the discussion, Plato is talking about an idea passed along thousands of years via oral tradition. Assuming he didn't just make it up, and that oral tradition exists, and you're going to have a major game of telephone going on.
And this isn't the Bible where you can "divinely inspire" your way out of that issue.
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Here is what Santorini may have looked like prior to the Theran eruption.
The fact that it's an actual island puts it way ahead of the Richat Structure
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:19 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Göbekli Tepe has rewritten our understanding of ancient history.
As in, it moved the timeline in certain areas back a little bit.
There isn't significant change in terms of conceptualizing the development of man, though.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:20 am to AlterEd
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The same way that this island in Canada is an island.
You think an Iron Age Greek like Plato would call that an island?
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
Yes. An island is land that is surrounded on all sides by water.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:21 am to tide06
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I’m not sure how they fit in with the “Sea People” who also likely played a major disruptive role in our history by invading and toppling numerous civilizations in the Mediterranean.
Why would an advanced civilization like Atlantis have any overlap with white trash like the Sea Peoples ?
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I also suspect that the Smithsonian has at times failed to disclose artifacts that would shed additional light on what we’re discussing
Oh shite here we go. Smithsonian conspiracy theories.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:23 am to AlterEd
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Yes. An island is land that is surrounded on all sides by water.
You're speaking in terms of a 21st century human with full understanding of the world's geography.
No Greek of that time period would call that an island. That's beyond silly.
I'm not an expert in ancient Greek, but I'd wager the actual word would eliminate that idea entirely, also.
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