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re: Was there really an Atlantis?

Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:19 am to
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Wrong. Gobekli Tepe disproves everything you're saying.

Gobekli Tepe exists in an area where humans were starting agriculture.

Do you understand where Anatolia is?
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:20 am to
Apparently the resume of SFP continues to grow:

Divorce lawyer (in LC)
Military strategist
Ancient civilization expert

Definitely on the spectrum though.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:24 am to
I'm sorry your intellectual limitations don't allow you similar ability. I don't know what else to tell you other than giving you pity
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:26 am to
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:27 am to
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The Giza Pyramids were created around 2500 BC. That was a Bronze Age civilization, too. And we know who built them (there are records).


What records indicate the pyramids were built in 2500BC?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11309 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:29 am to
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Divorce lawyer (in LC)
Military strategist
Ancient civilization expert


Don't forget that he puts on his doctor hat from time to time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:31 am to
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What records indicate the pyramids were built in 2500BC?


Look up The Diary of Merer

Wiki article on it

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97655 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:32 am to
quote:

Apparently the resume of SFP continues to grow:

Divorce lawyer (in LC)
Military strategist
Ancient civilization expert

Definitely on the spectrum though.



Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31293 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:32 am to
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No I think he's fricking with you and you're letting him.


It's amazing that people don't realize SFP is here to troll and to hone his debating skills. (He really is a lawyer) I would not be surprised if he writes off his time spent arguing here as a continuing education expense.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:33 am to
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I don't know what else to tell you other than giving you pity



Stay obnoxious.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11309 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:36 am to
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Gobekli Tepe exists in an area where humans were starting agriculture.

Do you understand where Anatolia is?


Wrong. Gobekli Tepe was standing in its place more than 500 years before people supposedly shifted to agriculture. Around the time of the supposed shift to agriculture, Gobekli Tepe was deliberately buried.

As I said, Gobekli Tepe disproves what that user was saying because it shows that "hunter gatherers" had time to do more than just hunt. They were already erecting megalithic stones and turning them into "temples" 500 years before.

And there are even older megalithic sites in the same area. Tas Tepeler and Karahan Tepe are even older.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:36 am to
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It's amazing that people don't realize SFP is here to troll

Wrong

But that doesn't mean I can't be funny while educating people.

When I talk in a serious tone people say I'm being autistic. When I joke people say I'm trolling. It's as if they try to set up the strawmen to make me appear to fail.

You can see lots of stuff on the last page that cannot be construed as trolling. Waiting for BorEd to respond.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:39 am to
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Wrong. Gobekli Tepe was standing in its place more than 500 years before people supposedly shifted to agriculture. Around the time of the supposed shift to agriculture, Gobekli Tepe was deliberately buried.

As I said, Gobekli Tepe disproves what that user was saying because it shows that "hunter gatherers" had time to do more than just hunt.


I don't know which "alternative historian" you're copying here, but you're showing the problem with this analytical style and I don't think you realize it.

You ignore the simple and most logical conclusion (GT just slightly shifts our timeline on agriculture) to create a complicated, illogical conclusion (hunter gatherers built GT and then buried it when agriculture started) in order to promote a narrative.

If our timeline on agriculture moved 500 years (your timeline), that's a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things. Well within the margin of error. That shift would completely explain GT as well, within the regular paradigm.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11309 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:47 am to
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If our timeline on agriculture moved 500 years (your timeline), that's a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things. Well within the margin of error. That shift would completely explain GT as well, within the regular paradigm.


Tas Tepeler is 12,000 years old. The shift to agriculture happened 9,000 years ago. The number of 11,000 years you people are throwing out is dishonest as 11,000 years ago you see people take the "first steps" to agriculture - the management of wild cereals. That isn't agriculture. You don't see full blown agriculture until at least 2,000 years later, when you finally have clear evidence of domesticated crops and animal husbandry.

There were megalithic structures standing in Turkey 2,000 years before the switch to agriculture.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:49 am to
I noticed you didn't deny writing off your time here.


Oh, and I wasn't the down voter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475816 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:52 am to
Again, the most logical explanation is that there is agriculture that we just haven't found evidence of yet. Why would you ever assume that this would be evidence of hunter-gatherers without evidence of that? We don't have evidence of either explanation mind you. There's no evidence that the people who created these structures were hunter-gatherers, either.

Why would you ever choose the least logical and more complicated explanation as your starting position?

As I said earlier, it shows a mindset of people who intentionally want to make things more complicated to increase the projection of the fantastical (in theory only).
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11309 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:58 am to
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Again, the most logical explanation is that there is agriculture that we just haven't found evidence of yet. Why would you ever assume that this would be evidence of hunter-gatherers without evidence of that? We don't have evidence of either explanation mind you. There's no evidence that the people who created these structures were hunter-gatherers, either.



What I'm saying is that the other user is wrong in saying that Atlantis couldn't have existed because we know exactly when and where agriculture was developed. There were megalithic structures erected in Turkey at the same time Atlantis was said to exist. So that user is wrong. It's really that simple.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38256 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:00 am to
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Was there really an Atlantis?
There was a song about it so I'm going with a yes.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
36609 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:02 am to
Nope. Would have been found by now. It’s just fantasy.

For some reason it’s just very compelling to white men around a certain age — generally those who love a good conspiracy theory.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
46702 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:03 am to
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But that doesn't mean I can't be funny while educating people.


About what, exactly? What’s your knowledge on ancient civilizations? How much time have you spent on the topic?
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