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re: Update: MJ Allegedly found w/ Dallas PwC Associate killed by DPD officer

Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32432 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:07 pm to


I was confused by the MJ in your title.
Posted by BruceJender
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
687 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:04 am to
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In HS I drove my dads truck with a camper top and let 6 friend’s hot box the back on the way to a party, one of them jumped out while we were doing 30 mph because he thought a cop was following us.


Yeah, this didn’t happen.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173707 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:08 am to
So the story goes from the cop being confused to they were after this guy because weed?

frick these cops.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16906 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:28 am to
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As far as the marijuana goes, as a juror I would wonder if LE planted it when searching the apartment. Make the victim look bad and ithe killer look good. Amber Guyger was dead wrong with her actions that night!!!




During the autopsy they will do a drug test..
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:36 am to
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IF this was an accident and she enters the apartment thinking it was her own, then if she shot the victim for no other reason than he was there that is a hell of a lot different than if she shot him trying to hit her with a bat.

I just don’t understand this line of thinking. If a random stranger bursts through my front door with a handgun on their waist, I am well within my rights if I shoot that stranger dead in order to protect my property and my life. If that stranger shoots me first, it’s likely murder, maybe manslaughter depending on the circumstances. He doesn’t get to claim “self-defense” after unlawfully entering MY residence.

But in this case, we have no reason to believe the victim was armed (don’t you think that would have gotten out by now?) which makes it even more egregious. The only reason I can see to give the shooter the benefit of the doubt is that she’s a cop. To me, that ALSO makes it more egregious. A) she was off-duty and B) police officers should be held to a higher standard - ESPECIALLY when they’re off-duty.

I’m not buying into any conspiracy theories about evidence being planted, but I’m also not buying into any “extenuating circumstances” unless or until someone can show that the victim willingly let her into his home.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16906 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:50 am to
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Exactly. The police didn’t make a news release saying “oh we found drugs!”

It was listed on the return of the search warrant and is public record. It was released when the press made a public records request.


This pisses me off because the media is reporting the attorney's cries of smear tactics. The media is stirring shite by not coming clean to the fact that they released the pot story.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74134 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:09 am to
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We can surmise this is a bullshite case when the Blue is trying pretty hard to protect their own. Because... if it were reversed and he made the address mistake? And she defended herself? He's guilty without question.


Checkmate
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:52 am to
Correct me in I'm wrong, but if the police show up with a warrant to look for a bullet casing, that doesn't give them the right to go through drawers or places the bullet casing won't be. They can't just go through the victims entire house.
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It is standard procedure to obtain a search warrant for a crime scene. They have to recover the bullet casings, etc. if they found an illegal substance while conducting the search warrant, the police will confiscate it. That can’t and won’t leave it there because it wasn’t hers. Though I believe the warrant does not indicate who it belonged to. For all we know, it could be the officers
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Hammond
Member since Feb 2013
10172 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:53 am to
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if the police show up with a warrant to look for a bullet casing, that doesn't give them the right to go through drawers or places the bullet casing won't be.


finding something in the open that might lead to probable cause of a deeper search ?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:56 am to
It doesn't matter what they find in the dudes apartment. The cop fricked up and smoked some dude sitting in his own home.
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
1673 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:11 am to
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During the autopsy they will do a drug test..


Still nothing to do with shooting a human being in their own apartment .

I’ve seen/heard 50+ excuses for this lady or how the murdered guy might deserve it.

That is part of the issue. We can have a 2 second clip of a minority allegedly doing wrong and we will get 50+ reasons / jokes why they and entire race is guilty.

It’s not a level playing field . We all commit crimes but if cops, judges, public , etc are biased you seek and prosecute at different rates, while looking other way at certain ppl.

Before the BS, I’m more concerned on black on black crime than I am on cop against minority crime. Just interesting see how some comment on this case vs when perp is minority.

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:18 am to
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I’ve seen/heard 50+ excuses for this lady or how the murdered guy might deserve it.

That is part of the issue. We can have a 2 second clip of a minority allegedly doing wrong and we will get 50+ reasons / jokes why they and entire race is guilty.


An overwhelming number of people are saying this cop is completely 100% wrong. It is actually relieving to see so many on the same side of an issue. Quit trying to divide us and be happy that we are standing together on this. Sure there may be a couple of idiots online and some deep state operatives trying to divide us but it is clear everyone is on the side of the victim here.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47704 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:33 am to
One of the first things said was that they didn't know each other. I heard on the radio that witnesses had come forward saying she was beating on the door, yelling at him, by name, to be let in.

Is there any other reporting of this? This changes the "Didn't know him" part, if true.

Has anyone else heard this?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:35 am to
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An overwhelming number of people are saying this cop is completely 100% wrong. It is actually relieving to see so many on the same side of an issue. Quit trying to divide us and be happy that we are standing together on this. Sure there may be a couple of idiots online and some deep state operatives trying to divide us but it is clear everyone is on the side of the victim here.


The Poliboard has been fricking awful as usual about this. One poster over there said she was justified beating down the door and shooting him since she may have smelt marijuana and thought he was a drug dealer. Due process means nothing to them.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:39 am to
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The Poliboard has been fricking awful as usual about this.


That board is unrecognizable today compared to a few years ago.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:40 am to

Poli B. The detention room of TD. Where you envision everyone getting their school clothes from the local church clothes closet.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:56 am to
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One of the first things said was that they didn't know each other. I heard on the radio that witnesses had come forward saying she was beating on the door, yelling at him, by name, to be let in.


People are idiots. Hands up dont shoot etc.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24462 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:59 am to
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I've smoked for 22 years and not once seen anything like that.


Weed Causes Anxiety for some people

I'm not making shite up, put the bong down and maybe you'll realize not everyone gets the same high as you.

We don't even know if the victim was high at the time. But the idea that being high or drunk makes you more rational is absurd. I was simply saying that its a plausible defense that anyone would use.

Again, the shooter is guilty and should go to prison.

ETA: Another article from High Times for you, let me know if you'd like some more evidence. Those two were simply the top google searches:
High Times
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by LSU 08
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
747 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:00 am to
Who said they went through drawers to find it? I’m not defending this cop, but y’all are jumping to a lot of conclusions. It could have been on the counter. If they see it, they take it. It doesn’t mean the cop was justified in killing him. And the police didn’t have a press conference announcing they found weed. It was listed on the warrant. No one is saying bc pot was found, the shooting was justified. She will do her time.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:11 am to
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Who said they went through drawers to find it? I’m not defending this cop, but y’all are jumping to a lot of conclusions. It could have been on the counter. If they see it, they take it. It doesn’t mean the cop was justified in killing him. And the police didn’t have a press conference announcing they found weed. It was listed on the warrant. No one is saying bc pot was found, the shooting was justified. She will do her time.



I haven't read everything on this case so maybe I've missed it. But I didn't hear anything about the cops phones or computer being confiscated. It seem like they'd rule out any involvement with the victim while investigating her story.
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