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re: Update: MJ Allegedly found w/ Dallas PwC Associate killed by DPD officer

Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:18 am to
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:18 am to
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It seem like they'd rule out any involvement with the victim while investigating her story.


Early on someone said that they did not know each other. I don't know how well that's been investigated, but I believe both sides excepted it at the time.

Given she is a cop, I'd think she would know damn well that if there is any evidence of them having a relationship that it will likely be found. Seems like her pleading she thought she was in the wrong apt would be poor if she knew him.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:23 am to
Am I missing something?

Why is pot being in the apartment even relevant?

She wasn't trying to arrest him or question him. She went into the wrong apartment and killed a dude thinking she was in her apartment.

This type of shite is why people hate the police. This lady should be in jail for murder.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:25 am to
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This type of shite is why people hate the police. This lady should be in jail for murder.


It's ironically why some block a highway, that's for sure. This case isn't normal treatment if there was one recently.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:26 am to
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Why is pot being in the apartment even relevant?


Because when you take a few pots, it makes you act so irrationally that you put others in fear for their lives
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:30 am to
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Stamps74
You are living your life with blinders on. Quit trying to find racism in everything you see, and you'll be a happier person. No one in this thread has said anything regarding him being black. Race has nothing to do with this case....absolutely zero.

It is cops vs. citizens
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:33 am to
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This type of shite is why people hate the police. This lady should be in jail for murder.


She's been arrested for manslaughter and the case is going to be heard before a grand jury to decide a more serious charge.

I'm honestly not sure what anyone expects the police to do differently.

Murder is when you intentionally try to kill someone. There's been nothing to suggest that she entered his apt with the intent to kill him.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:35 am to
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I’m saying it’s certainly plausible the victim heard someone at his door and he was high, went to the peep hole and saw it was a uniformed officer, and freaked out.

The lady that shot him is guilty of killing him. All I’m saying is there could be an explaination that she deserves the death penalty, or there could be an explaination on why she deserves minimum time. Neither of which the general public knows at this time.


Just so you know, this is all nonsense. With the perception of police these days, especially by minorities, who wouldn't freak out when they saw a uniformed officer enter their home (regardless of their use of substance)? It's entirely irrelevant, the small amount of weed he had in his home.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:41 am to
Replace the cop lady with anyone else in the world, and they'd immediately catch a murder charge
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:42 am to
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She's been arrested for manslaughter and the case is going to be heard before a grand jury to decide a more serious charge.

I'm honestly not sure what anyone expects the police to do differently.

Murder is when you intentionally try to kill someone. There's been nothing to suggest that she entered his apt with the intent to kill him.



They just recently sent that cop to prison for shooting into that car and killing that kid in the DFW area. His sentence was 15 years. I'd imagine frustration with that sentence is carrying over here.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 10:48 am to
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Replace the cop lady with anyone else in the world, and they'd immediately catch a murder charge


That's an absurd opinion. To be a murder you have to have a motive. What's the motive here?
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:05 am to
You need to look up some penal codes. She intentionally killed the dude. That's 2nd degree murder, and she'd 100% be charged with that if she weren't a cop. There is no doubt in my mind.


Eta: Former Dallas judges, prosecutors, and defense attorneys have all come out and said such
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 11:08 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:10 am to
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To be a murder you have to have a motive.

A guy in my area is being charged with 2nd degree murder for running from a border patrol situation. A cop ran after him, didn't bother to look in the street at all. Being charged with murder and manslaughter actually.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 11:12 am
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:13 am to
Idk why you're defending the charge. Everyone in the country knows it should've been a murder charge, and that's why it's still being talked about
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:15 am to

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That's an absurd opinion. To be a murder you have to have a motive. What's the motive here?


Care to explain what her motive and intent was??
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:24 am to
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That's an absurd opinion. To be a murder you have to have a motive. What's the motive here?



In Texas, 2nd degree murder is this:

The defendant intentionally and knowingly caused the death of another person;

AND

The defendant intended to cause serious bodily injury and committed an act that was clearly dangerous to human life and this act caused the death of an individual;

OR

The defendant committed or attempted to commit a felony (other than manslaughter) and in performing that felony, committed an act that was clearly dangerous to human life and this act caused the death of an individual.


She did the first two and it could be argued she killed him after gaining illegal entry into his apartment.

If she was not a cop, she would 100% be facing a murder charge.

Its a fricking joke that police released information that the victim had a small personal amount of marijuana in his apartment. That is completely irrelevant to the situation. Period.

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24454 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:24 am to
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Idk why you're defending the charge. Everyone in the country knows it should've been a murder charge, and that's why it's still being talked about


Everyone? There's multiple people just in this thread that disagree including me. We don't even know most of the important facts of the case like how exactly she got into his place.

How are you certain there is not something that clearly shows this was not worthy of a murder charge?

Again, from what I've seen she did not mean to kill the guy. If she honestly thought she was in her own place and honestly thought there was a burger there with her, you still think she deserves murder?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 11:34 am to

I'm sorry, but you're standing out like a douche.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:01 pm to
I posted earlier in this thread that this actually happened to me. It throws you off and you know somethings weird, but you realize you're in the wrong condo within a few seconds.

The only reason we believe the cop didn't know the victim, is because the killer said she didn't. If I had killed the girl who's condo I walked into, I'd be in jail, my house searched, phone records and computers seized. As they should have been in this case. I don't see anything but special treatment.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:04 pm to
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Murder is when you intentionally try to kill someone. There's been nothing to suggest that she entered his apt with the intent to kill him.



If I busted into your home and shot you for just standing around, that is murder. I haven't seen many lawyers debating whether it is murder or not, it's the cops protecting their own. If she were not a cop, she would have been charged with murder not manslaughter, and certainly wouldn't be allowed to roam around Dallas for 3 fricking days.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19897 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Again, from what I've seen she did not mean to kill the guy.


Yes she did, unless you're taking the position she was trying to wound him when she drew her gun and fired.

quote:

If she honestly thought she was in her own place and honestly thought there was a burger there with her, you still think she deserves murder?


Maybe, maybe not. It depends on whether her thinking she was in the wrong apartment was reasonable or not
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