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re: Update: MJ Allegedly found w/ Dallas PwC Associate killed by DPD officer

Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:27 pm to
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Without seeing the video I was say that is no way to be true. Maybe without something foreign in the door. But it’s not like you couldn’t be a door stop.

For all we know the victim was waiting on someone and left the door open intentionally.


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During a press conference, Lee Merritt, one of the attorneys for the family, said two independent witnesses alleged they heard knocking on the door in the hallway before the shooting. One of the witnesses said right before the gunshots she heard a a woman’s voice saying, “Let me in, let me in.” This directly contradicts Guyger who at first claimed the door was locked, then said the door was unlocked, and then claimed the door was ajar.

Most disturbingly, after the gunshots, one of the witnesses said she heard a man’s voice saying, “Oh my God, why did you do that?” Merritt believes that sentence was Jean’s final words.


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Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:29 pm to
I'm no legal expert, but I would think the absolute best case scenario assuming this all was just a tragic accident is still grounds for negligent homicide.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:30 pm to
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I’m simply saying that having something in his system may be grounds to lighten her sentence.


If a kick down your door and shoot you while you're drinking a beer watching football, should I get a lighter sentence since you may have been drunk?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:31 pm to
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If her tox screen is clean, I don’t even know how you charge her with negligent or involuntary homicide. At that point, it’s just a confluence of shitty luck for all involved with no one doing anything wrong. I go back to the door though, if that exterior door is closed and she can’t get in he probably comes to the door hearing her working the card, talks to her through the door, they figure it out and have a laugh over the situation. If her tox is dirty it’s a new ballgame. If not, just a tragic misunderstanding that can be handled in civil court.


I just dont see a way where if you or I do this that we also are not in handcuffs.
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3682 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:31 pm to
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Did I say something unreasonable and/or have some facts wrong?


I think most are reading this

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At that point, it’s just a confluence of shitty luck for all involved with no one doing anything wrong.


And believe her inability to know where she was resulted in a man's death in his home. Something wrong happened, even due to an accident.

And that is if that scenario is exactly what happened.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:32 pm to
Not necessarily, but you should get a heavier sentence if his team was in the middle of a last minute comeback drive to upset the favored team, not a lawyer, just sayin
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 5:34 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:33 pm to
Did she think her fricking roommate changed the locks?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:33 pm to
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don’t care if it was alcohol, Mj, Coke, whatever. I’m simply saying that having something in his system may be grounds to lighten her sentence.



Were you the kid who loved DARE classes? Been manipulated much?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:35 pm to
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Did she think her fricking roommate changed the locks?


I dont know, but to me that indicates the door wasnt left open accidently if shes asking to be let in.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24462 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:40 pm to
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If a kick down your door and shoot you while you're drinking a beer watching football, should I get a lighter sentence since you may have been drunk?


If the victim was sitting on his couch he is likely alive today.

Everyone is assuming the victim was just standing there when he was shot. We don’t know what exactly went down.

I’m saying if he was high and saw a cop walk in his door, it could be argued he would be more likely to act irrationally which would cause her to fear for her life.

If she walked in, saw a dark object, and shot. Then I agree it doesn’t matter at all what the victim had in his system.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:41 pm to
I was under the impression that she lived alone.

Also, the casings and the victim’s location will tell the story of where they were in space and will tell a lot.

No way in hell she would have been able to stage the scene to match her story.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 5:42 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:43 pm to
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I’m saying if he was high and saw a cop walk in his door, it could be argued he would be more likely to act irrationally which would cause her to fear for her life.



Have you ever smoked pot before?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:48 pm to
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I’m saying if he was high and saw a cop walk in his door, it could be argued he would be more likely to act irrationally which would cause her to fear for her life.



Just a small reminder, you're referring to someone entering someone elses apartment, then fearing for their life when they see the occupant.

I honestly hope you're never robbed, the bad guy could quote you there.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:50 pm to
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I’m saying if he was high and saw a cop walk in his door, it could be argued he would be more likely to act irrationally which would cause her to fear for her life.


He was in his own house, someone broke in, and pointed a gun at him. How the frick is he supposed to act "rationally"?

She is the intruder. Her fearing for her life doesn't mean jack shite.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:03 pm to
Yup, her role as a law officer should not give her a lighter sentence. She made a dumbass move and a man is dead because of it. She is responsible for knowing where she was and is responsible for pulling the trigger.
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3682 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:06 pm to
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She is responsible for knowing where she was and is responsible for pulling the trigger.


I can't believe folks are arguing against this notion.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:11 pm to
As far as the marijuana goes, as a juror I would wonder if LE planted it when searching the apartment. Make the victim look bad and ithe killer look good. Amber Guyger was dead wrong with her actions that night!!!
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3141 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:18 pm to
The mJ should not matter at all, and it presence being broadcast reeks of a smear campaign against the victim who was shot and killed in his own home.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21403 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:21 pm to
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I’m seriously curious about the downvotes.

Did I say something unreasonable and/or have some facts wrong?

Seriously asking.

Here it is...
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If her tox screen is clean, I don’t even know how you charge her with negligent or involuntary homicide.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21403 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:23 pm to
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If a kick down your door and shoot you while you're drinking a beer watching football, should I get a lighter sentence since you may have been drunk?

Add in loud music and you're good for a $4 civil settlement.
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