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re: Update: Killed on House Floor 4/17, Bill prohibiting all cell phone use while driving

Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4662 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:44 pm to
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How would this affect Ridesharing? Every Uber and Lyft I’ve been in has like 3 phone mounts...


It looks like it would allow an exception for that:
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(2) The provisions of Subsection B of this Section shall not apply to a person who uses a wireless telecommunications device to do any of the following:

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(c) Relay information between a transit or for-hire operator, including a transportation network company driver, and that operator's dispatcher, in which the device is affixed to the vehicle.

(d) Navigate using a global positioning system.

This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:45 pm to
Won't matter. Trial lawyers will make sure that cell phone use violations are inadmissible as evidence when a drunk, non-seatbelted texter crashes and sues your arse for pain and suffering.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:49 pm to
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prohibiting all cell phone use while driving


there goes uber
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71076 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:52 pm to
Yep
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23853 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:58 pm to
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there goes uber


There would absolutely have to be an allowance for hands free navigation. I have my phone mounted and it serves as my source of music to my speakers and my maps. They aren't going to make Garmins or other navigation systems illegal and they aren't going to make it illegal to use your radio while driving. The compromise here is hands free use only.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120116 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Trial lawyers will make sure that cell phone use violations are inadmissible as evidence when a drunk, non-seatbelted texter crashes and sues your arse for pain and suffering.



Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17457 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Republicans will limit cell phones but not guns. Interesting

I'm far more concerned about a dumbfrick hitting me while playing with their phone than I am about someone shooting me.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:08 pm to
women will stay off the road. This is a great thing.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57976 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:12 pm to
Does it even mention texting?

I'ld like to see a law that allows commuters to report each other (with proof via either a mounted Go-Pro or a passenger using cell video) for texting while driving and receiving half of the collected fine as incentive.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21695 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:15 pm to
If it saves one life, we should all be for it.

Amirite?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21695 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:16 pm to
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There would absolutely have to be an allowance for hands free navigation.


Unfortunately citizens dont get a say in these sorts of things.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10749 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:21 pm to
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All use period or handsfree only?

I'm all for the latter.




I'm on board for hands free only.

I think talking to someone via hands free is no more dangerous than talking to someone sitting in the car with you.

In fact, I'd argue that it's MORE safe since you don't have the urge to turn your head and look at them.

When you have a phone in your hand, held up to your ear, I think your brain goes in to a different mode. For so long, we were used to sitting in a chair and talking on a land line. I think that mode forgets that you're driving a car. It's subtle, but I think it happens.

But hands free, you're brain doesn't go to that mode.

Just a theory, but I'd love to see it studied objectively.
Posted by rld280z
Richmond, VA
Member since Mar 2018
142 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:21 pm to
It's only a Bill and nothing more. Just some politician bloviating to make others think he is doing some work. Nothing to worry about
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14915 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:29 pm to
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But hands free, you're brain doesn't go to that mode.

Just a theory, but I'd love to see it studied objectively.

You'd definitely think so but it has been studied and the statistics are no different from holding it up to your ear. I read a study where they used simulators with 3 groups of drivers. One group received a phone call on a regular cell phone; the second group used a hands free bluetooth setup and the third was a control group and received no phone call. Driving errors made by the first two groups were about the same but more than the third group.
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1760 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Republicans will limit cell phones but not guns. Interesting


You have to pass a background check to have a phone? Or have a license to carry one in your pocket?

That being said, maybe we should have to pass a test or check to have a mobile data plan. To many dumbasses posting stupid crap from phones. See example above.
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 2:50 pm to
I think there should be a test.

If you can drive for 30 mins and send at least 20 texts, check insta and FB, and make 6 posts on TD without breaking any traffic laws, then you get a license that allows you to do so......just like drinking.

Drunk driving while texting license would be an hour long test.
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20436 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:01 pm to
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how much will it be enforced across the country?


Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe louisiana legislators only create/modify LA laws. However, I have been wrong before.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25188 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Republicans will limit cell phones but not guns. Interesting


Common sense cell phone control. More people in the US die from distracted driving than from guns
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10749 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:08 pm to
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You'd definitely think so but it has been studied and the statistics are no different from holding it up to your ear. I read a study where they used simulators with 3 groups of drivers. One group received a phone call on a regular cell phone; the second group used a hands free bluetooth setup and the third was a control group and received no phone call. Driving errors made by the first two groups were about the same but more than the third group.


I'd still like to see a comparison to a group where someone is sitting in the passenger seat talking to them. My theory is that it's even more distracting than a cell phone on hands free mode.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14915 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 3:17 pm to
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I'd still like to see a comparison to a group where someone is sitting in the passenger seat talking to them. My theory is that it's even more distracting than a cell phone on hands free mode.

It sure seems like that would at least be as distracting. Unless there's just something intrinsically different about talking to someone on the phone vs. talking to a person next to you.
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