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re: To over 45 years old, crime & murder rate is 1/3 compared 70s-90s. It's not worse, better.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:33 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:33 pm to JohnnyKilroy
2020 thru present has seen a rise, but it’s still not at the level of 80s and early 90s for either white people or black people
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Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but the rates are still nowhere close to the 80s/90s.
Depends on where you are. A large amount of posters here live in or very close to areas that are near/above 90s rates.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:34 pm to calcotron
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The book dug into several reasons why from globalization to the failings of the US health care system (opioid prescriptions) to the decline in families being part of a church. The phenomenon is basically an American problem, you don't see it elsewhere in the same way.
This is all because American prosperity both (1) had the highest standard of living for "middle class" and (2) permitted people to move up/down the ladder more than anywhere else.
The problem is that many blue collar people refused to adapt to a changing economy, especially in the Rust Belt. That ladder goes both ways, and they slid down. Now the economic forces have led to societal issues, leading to drug abuse, which has caused a spiral to the lower class mentality.
To sum up, they got way too comfortable with their station in life and let societal advancement leave them behind.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:36 pm to Saunson69
Your charts say your accurate but my experience says your full of shift.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Man I'm looking for data and can't find any. I would bet the violent crime/murder rates were higher, though
I know the murder rate wasn't and I think you can generally extrapolate other violent crime from there. BR had over 100 murders once around 2007 or so. In the 90s/80s it was 50-70 most years. It was 170 in 2021 and 135 in 2022 with about the same population as in 1980.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:44 pm to Saunson69
Back then, they kept the murdering in the housing projects, now it’s everywhere
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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A large amount of posters here live in or very close to areas that are near/above 90s rates.
I really would like to see the data because this seems incomprehensible. Total numbers? Sure, in a place like BR that has had a huge population explosion.
I could see higher rates in an Austin that had basically 0 crime and is now a major city, but I don't think too many are citing ATX.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:47 pm to fallguy_1978
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In the 90s/80s it was 50-70 most years
What was the population diference?
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:49 pm to Saunson69
The 70s little kids etc just disappeared on a fairly regular basis if they were over 14 they stamped runaway and typically didn’t even look
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:49 pm to Saunson69
Your thread title is a fricking abortion. Fix that shite.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:50 pm to Saunson69
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significant older population compared to other sites because majority of what I see on here is how society is doomed and 70s-90s
The site is probably on the older site these days but I think the general public, young or old, feel the world is much more dangerous these days thanks to constant coverage of everything bad by the media / social media
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What was the population diference?
Minimal. Less than 10k difference. The population in BR in 2023 is about the same as 1980. The parish and metro are higher
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:52 pm to Saunson69
You're not wrong. Though things are trending back up. Reporting has changed quite a bit. That gives people the idea that things are worse.
And some localized areas are indeed worse. I would also say that areas that were once relatively crime-free but now are not. Almost like it was also more concentrated but now spread out and infecting areas that were once clean or cleaner.
And some localized areas are indeed worse. I would also say that areas that were once relatively crime-free but now are not. Almost like it was also more concentrated but now spread out and infecting areas that were once clean or cleaner.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:54 pm to TutHillTiger
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The 70s little kids etc just disappeared on a fairly regular basis if they were over 14 they stamped runaway and typically didn’t even look
Yup, I saw a documentary on John Wayne Gacie and that is exactly what happened to most of his victims
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:58 pm to fallguy_1978
Per ChatGPT (since Google is worthless now), the murder rate in Baton Rouge was 58.7/100k in 1993 and 54.8/100k in 1992.
This article from Feb 2022 has the BR murder rate at 31.72
This article from Feb 2022 has the BR murder rate at 31.72
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:00 pm to mdomingue
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And some localized areas are indeed worse. I would also say that areas that were once relatively crime-free but now are not. Almost like it was also more concentrated but now spread out and infecting areas that were once clean or cleaner.
This is true, but then there are areas populated without almost any violent crime, that didn't exist in that referenced past time.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I really would like to see the data because this seems incomprehensible. Total numbers? Sure, in a place like BR that has had a huge population explosion.
Uhh nola?
Their murder rate in 2022 was higher than all but like 3 or maybe 4 years in the 90s.
70 murders/100k population last year.
Higher than every year in the 80s and higher than every year in the 90s aside from 93-96.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:02 pm to fallguy_1978
Nola is a completely different story as far as murder rates in the 70’s and 80’s compared to BR. Nola was a death trap during those decades, especially during the introduction of crack cocaine to the city.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah that’s tip of the iceberg, he was a nobody. There were sex rings for the super rich that supplied teenage boys and girls on a rate that’s really unimaginable people right now. (You can search my old post for info on that houston ring) they basically screwed teenagers particularly boys until they got tired of them and then they disappeared or died if “drug overdoses” 100s of kids
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:07 pm to Breauxsif
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Nola was a death trap during those decades, especially during the introduction of crack cocaine to the city.
If we are going by recorded murders the 70s and 80s in nola were nothing compared to today.
Early to mid 2010s (Katrina recovery full steam ahead, lots of interest and money flowing into the city), a time when most on here would probably agree was peak nola in most of our lifetimes, was at or above all of the 70s and 80s in terms of murder rates.
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