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re: To over 45 years old, crime & murder rate is 1/3 compared 70s-90s. It's not worse, better.

Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:11 pm to
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Murders are down but shootings are probably up. Getting shot back in the 70s-90s was a death sentence but advances in emergency medical/trauma care are helping victims stay alive.
Articles that state 90 shots fired, two victims hit in the leg says maybe shooters had better aim in the earlier years.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:12 pm to
crime rate goes down if there are less cops to call and write reports?
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:12 pm to
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crime rate goes down if there are less cops to call and write reports?


Now that's progressive thinking !
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8766 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:13 pm to
Got damn Russian bots.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13228 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:14 pm to
Maybe you’re right, but the lawlessness in big cities will lead to worse numbers.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:14 pm to
it’s a statistical fact, crime rate goes up if there are more cops on duty that observe violations and make records of them
Posted by auburnu008
I am the bagman
Member since Feb 2010
18528 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:17 pm to
Half of the murders in the past 3 years were classified as covid deaths.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:19 pm to
You joined to post this propaganda?
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Crime is a localized issue. I don't care what the crime rate is in Beaumont in a vacuum. It's way higher where I live than it was 35 years ago



Louisiana violent and property crime is down since 2000 as well.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8251 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:22 pm to
No worries, people are killing themselves at record rates to make up for it.

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48466 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:26 pm to
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Louisiana violent and property crime is down since 2000 as well.

That might be the case but again, it's a localized problem. If crime goes up 1000% next year in Bastrop it really doesn't matter to me. No offense if you live in Bastrop. The most violent year of all time where I live was 2021. 2022 was #3
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
2415 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:32 pm to
We had more serial killers in the 80's. But didn't have mass shootings in schools and super markets.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14977 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:37 pm to
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It’s the safest time ever to be alive.

1. I don’t believe those numbers.

2. Do you think people feel safer and more secure now?
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2049 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 6:54 pm to
bullshite, and the economy is great
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8349 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:00 pm to
I think it shot up in the Eighties because of crack. They killed themselves off.

But not before they reproduced young addicts.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48489 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:00 pm to
I had to google deaths of despair- seems like it is also suicide and alcohol/drug related I still do not understand the difference but I did not do an in depth study just looked at the first hits on google.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71365 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:08 pm to
Tough to make the point you think you're making with all pre-covid numbers my man.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:11 pm to
Couple factors

The GWOT has exponentially increased survival of life threatening treatment/care of gunshot wounds. Shootings would be a far better metric.

The "no noticeable increase in crime since the pandemic" metric is a complete farce. Those stats are based on convictions. Most DA's in major cities have dismissed or pled down a massive percentage of crimes (I assume these stats are based on convictions of certain crimes). Also, the cops aren't arresting near the amount of people they were 10 years ago due to being understaffed or after being instructed by their bosses not to do so.


Anyone living in major American cities will freely tell you that crime is far more prevalent than before the pandemic.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21760 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:22 pm to
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I still do not understand the difference but I did not do an in depth study just looked at the first hits on google.


I think Deaths of Despair on that chart is just the other 3 combined, given you a total out of 100,000
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1351 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:23 pm to
And where does medical advancements factor in your Murder stats?
If prosecutors no longer prosecute lower level crimes, how does that affect your crime stat?
And if the majority population is committing less crime, would that offset the increase in other ethnic considerations?
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