re: This mid-20s fitness freak is raking in the Veterans disability

All you fat cowards could have joined.
Your country was in active combat the past two decades.
Where were you?
US government signed a contract.
You voted for it.
So, go frick yourselves.
Losers complaining about losing.

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I worked for a company that performs disability claim verification exams. I know that our business boomed a couple of years ago after they added some new diagnoses to the list that can be claimed.

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Also because many VA hospitals stopped doing the evaluations with a few exceptions, instead farming them out to companies like yours who vary quite a bit in quality but often do very poor quality evals. I used to do C&P full time but now only see them occasionally for OT when it is determined the exam must be done by a VA provider (usually because outside examiners did a terrible job).

So many "heros" getting VA disability that never served in wartime. SMH

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Like most things, people are generally ignorant of how any particular system actually works and just go off of some Facebook article or what a friend of a friend that they know usually told them. That kid that posted in OP could very well have a 0% rating and was just talking shite.

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These pop up every week now, and most of the “proof” offered is either impossible on its face or isn’t actually evidence of fraud. An 80 percent tinnitus claim doesn’t exist, and “He has a job and a nice truck” isn’t fraud. Once you start noticing how many of these stories fall apart the second you touch them, it’s hard not to wonder how much of this “problem” is just people repeating bad info they never bothered to check about a subject they know little about.

When you start noticing how many of these claims are simply untrue, I think it's fair to question whether the issue is being inflated by people who don’t really understand how the system works. And that raises another fair question: if so many stories aren’t accurate, what exactly is driving the motive to make shite up to push the narrative that vets are suddenly gaming the system in unprecedented numbers?

Then there’s the OT's favorite stat: the percentage rise in disability claims. And every time it's brought up, any and all context magically disappears. This generation of vets served in a military that was much smaller than it used to be, and that smaller force spent two decades deployed. This generation averaged more days in combat or combat zones and averaged more days in contact than any previous generation of Americans. That’s not the same thing as saying they faced more intense combat than previous generations, but more accumulated exposure does mean significantly more wear on the body. Add in the fact that wounds are far more survivable today and that PTSD/TBI are actually recognized instead of brushed off as “walk it off,” and it shouldn't be the gigantic fricking shocker for so many on here that the numbers went up that it seems to be..

The plot twist is that Americans overwhelmingly supported sending these people to war. Meaning, statistically, a lot of the people complaining in this thread were probably cheering it on in the beginning, even though no one admits it now. The pivot to framing vets as milking the system when the bill finally comes due for injuries and conditions they sustained doing exactly what the majority of the country (and many in this thread) asked them to do is deeply disappointing.

Fraud exists, sure. But the giant shadow version people keep describing being supported by so many claims that fail to survive initial contact should at least lead to a small question about where these narratives are coming from and why they’re so popular with folks who can’t explain how the VA rating system works or understand the basic difference between VA disability compensation and Social Security disability insurance.

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Does every position in the military carry the same risk of injury/death?

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Are you proposing basing disability compensation on risk of injury rather than actual injury. What's going on here?

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Does every person receiving benefits perform the same job or serve the same number of years?

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And now we're basing disability payments on job titles and tenure rather than actual injury? What is the thinking here?

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Did someone force you to go into the military even though taxpayers are forced to payout benefits?

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Fair question, and no. At the same time it's only a volunteer military because taxpayers approved a compensation package through their elected representatives that offers enhanced benefits. Far less people would enter a high injury job like that without a safety net.

You could say we need to downsize the military and I'd agree or you might want to shitcan it all together, and that's fine. But as it stands, that point goes both ways.

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Are you proposing basing disability compensation on risk of injury rather than actual injury. What's going on here?

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No dummy, Im saying it based on more legitimate judgements, like what activities you performed.

Why would anyone be given disability if they're not disabled?

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And now we're basing disability payments on job titles and tenure rather than actual injury? What is the thinking here?

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Where did you get the idea that anyone would be paid without a provable legitimate injury?

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At the same time it's only a volunteer military because taxpayers approved a compensation package through their elected representatives that offers enhanced benefits. Far less people would enter a high injury job like that without a safety net.

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Taxpayers didnt approve the wars or conflicts though.

I play cards with a cop who gets PTSD pay from military. 6K a month.

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What are you even talking about? At no point have I suggested anyone be paid out based on any other variable other than a legitimate injury IN the line of combat duty.

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Then what is the purpose of this question you asked in context?:

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Does every position in the military carry the same risk of injury/death?

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I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. The purpose of the question seems to be leading the reader to conclude that payments should not be equal because not all job titles have an equal chance of hostile fire.

If so, my argument is that a tent repair specialist and a navy seal get blowed up just the same no matter how much less it happens so that's why I believe it should be based on actual injuries incurred and not the likelihood of it happening.

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I’m not sure I’ve ever met anyone who was in the military that doesn’t collect disability.

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I don't draw it. Most vets I personally know don't draw it.

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Does every position in the military carry the same risk of injury/death? Does every person receiving benefits perform the same job or serve the same number of years?

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Can you clarify the reasoning behind your question?