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Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:45 pm to TheOcean
Oh shite, that's Pedro Goldingro.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 11:05 pm to TheOcean
That’s disturbing. I could kill someone in self defense but actively pursuing it is psychotic.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 2:25 am to CockHolliday
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Not only that, he threw a brick down on top of him for good measure.
This it was his flip flop
Posted on 7/25/26 at 2:36 am to TheOcean
That is murder. You knock someone out cold the fight is over.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 2:42 am to jscrims
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quote:That shite was definitely pre meditated I don’t think you know the definition of pre-meditated.
Or the definition of first degree murder.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 2:50 am to GeauxZone90
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Premeditated is to plan out. The dude brought him back to his boat and knocked him out in the pier. Threw him in the ocean
While many courts have held that premeditation can be a very short time you still have to make a conscious choice. The speed that he came up and immediately flipped the guy in the water does not look like premeditation to me. Now if you could prove his state of mind prior then that's different, but also almost impossible. This first 2nd degree in FL almost perfectly, 1st degree is much more of a stretch, and I would say it would give you less than a 50% chance of conviction based in whole on the video. I know nothing else about the case.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 5:57 am to TheOcean
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Think this is first degree murder?
Most states require the commission of certain felonies to be a prerequisite for 1st degree murder.
This was just plain murder, so, 2nd degree is the correct charge.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 7:35 am to stelly1025
The question isn’t whether it is murder or not
Posted on 7/25/26 at 11:11 am to CockHolliday
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Not only that, he threw a brick down on top of him for good measure. Guilty.
Pretty sure that was his shoe.
That’s definitely a heat of the moment kind of thing, so premeditated doesn’t seem to fit IMO. And weirdly it looks like they both trip and fall. But he definitely tosses an unconscious man into the water on purpose. So whatever charge fits that works for me.
This post was edited on 7/25/26 at 11:39 am
Posted on 7/25/26 at 11:15 am to TheOcean
how retarded do you have to be to think you could get away with something like this in broad daylight at a marina in 2024
Posted on 7/25/26 at 1:33 pm to TheOcean
If he was black he’d be found incompetent to stand trial then be back out on the street.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 1:37 pm to Obtuse1
Wonder if you could make an argument that because he so quickly threw his unconscious body into the water that it was premeditated. It was so quick it's like he had already thought about it. Granted, the counter is that he didn't know the guy would be knocked out.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 1:52 pm to GeauxZone90
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Premeditated is to plan out. The dude brought him back to his boat and knocked him out in the pier. Threw him in the ocean
you don't know what you're talking about
Posted on 7/25/26 at 2:44 pm to GeauxZone90
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That shite was definitely pre meditated
Oh yeah? You think that guy said "OK, today is finally the day. I'm gonna go to the marina, hit this other dude and he's gonna fall back and hit his head. Then he's gonna fall in the water. It's all part of my master plan..."
Posted on 7/25/26 at 3:52 pm to icecreamsnowball
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The question isn’t whether it is murder or not
Yeah that is murder. Knocking someone out and throwing them in a body of water and walking away. That is murder.
This post was edited on 7/25/26 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 7/25/26 at 3:56 pm to stelly1025
No one is arguing whether it’s murder or not. I don’t see it being first-degree.
Posted on 7/25/26 at 3:59 pm to Giantkiller
There's no minimum time limit for pre meditation btw
Posted on 7/25/26 at 4:11 pm to TheOcean
Is it them again?
Posted on 7/25/26 at 4:16 pm to TheOcean
Dude went from probation to life in prison in one fell swoop.
This post was edited on 7/25/26 at 9:30 pm
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