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re: There are 5 million people that live between Baton Rouge and Destin

Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131198 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:12 pm to
I-10 is already being widened in parts of that stretch.

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I would be okay with a toll road like they have in south florida.

As long as I’m allowed to use something like SunPass or EZTag at reasonable rates, I’d be okay with that. If I have to be charged out the wazoo as an out-of-stater like I would be in Alabama once that new bridge is completed, then frick that shite.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49116 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:40 pm to
Hell I'd be happy if this MFin Road here was reopened.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35791 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:42 pm to
Nobody predicted the rise in 18 wheelers the interstate system spawned
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96386 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:55 pm to
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It should be mandatory four lanes in each direction.


More lanes isn't the answer.

Then, in 30 years, you will have 10 million people in that corridor.

(Pigou-Knight-Downs paradox)
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
5237 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:19 pm to
There are interstate highways in Hawaii. Wrap your head around that.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
2342 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:34 pm to
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It should be mandatory four lanes in each direction.


And I promise you at some point it will be 76, 75, 73, 70 from left to right, side by side, completely unaware of the world around them.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
1045 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:48 pm to
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Why cant Louisiana, Mississippi , Alabama, and Florida come together and expand our interstate highway system.


You are traveling on the main beach route at the tail end of Labor Day weekend, for one. But I’ll give you that traffic is almost always pretty heavy along the route.

It’s gotten much worse in the last 20 years or so and these states are catching up while trying to prioritize huge backlogs of other projects.

I assume MS will probably be the first to have the route fully six lanes as they have the fewest competing priorities for funding.

Alabama can’t even contemplate significant widening work until they deal with the VERY expensive new bridge in Mobile to replace the tunnel with a bridge. Then you have the Bayway at only 4 lanes…$$$$

Widening the entire length of I-12 in LA is straightforward by comparison, and the most critical miles have been addressed first. But there are more critical projects elsewhere in the state in dire need of funding.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
1045 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 5:48 pm to
Duplicate post :/
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 5:49 pm
Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
520 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 6:00 pm to
Future traffic estimates are figured into roadway construction projects, but you have to consider when I10 was built in the 50s/60s there is no way those designers could have ever fathomed the amount of traffic the interstate system would carry. Most families had 1 maybe 2 cars if they were lucky compared to 3-4 cars for families with teens, older kids, or relatives in the household. I don't think that could have been foreseen with the thinking of the day. Now figure in the astronomical rise of commercial trucking numbers and Somalian medical transports using the roadway system and those engineer's minds would have been blown. I would imagine they would have chosen at minimum 6 or 8 lanes. There was just no way to project the usage that was to come. I wonder about the calcs we use today and how they will hold up.
Well flying cars will be here soon so that should help some.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8236 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:06 pm to
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I would be okay with a toll road like they have in south florida


Frick that. I made 2 trips to South Florida this year. Just got my toll bill…$132.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17746 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:15 pm to
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Nobody predicted the rise in 18 wheelers

Invented in 1898, first trucking boom in 1920, 1953 was the first overhead sleeper.

Government planning wins again.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151764 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:20 pm to
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When they built these highways fifty - sixty years ago, did they imagine all this traffic? It should be mandatory four lanes in each direction.
they aren’t highways. They are interstates.

The problem is the local communities neglected building ‘highways’ in that region. There is no reason for anyone to have to get on an interstate week to week unless you are a highway trucker.

Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
11421 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:29 pm to
As much since as going four wide coast to coast sounds, in the end there will still be idiots camped out in the hammer lane barley going over the speed limit.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
12044 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:30 pm to
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Why cant Louisiana, Mississippi , Alabama, and Florida come together

They tried that once. I hear the Yankees weren't thrilled.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159411 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:33 pm to
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There are interstate highways in Hawaii. Wrap your head around that.
Federal Highway Administration - An official website of the United States government


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Ask the Rambler: Interstates in Hawaii: ARE WE CRAZY???
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The Rambler thinks the decision to designate Interstate routes in Hawaii may become clearer by adding that the Interstate System is more than just a series of connected highways. It is also a design concept, with highways designed to handle high volumes of traffic safely and efficiently at freeway speeds. Moreover, the Interstate System is not limited to routes passing through two or more States. Many Interstates, such as circumferentials/beltways and spurs, are confined to one State.

Although Hawaii's Interstate highways are not connected to those in the continental United States, they are built to Interstate standards. The fact that they carry an "H" number, rather than an "I" number differentiates them from the connected system of Interstate routes on the continental United States.
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The Rambler didn't want to mention it, but Alaska and Puerto Rico also have Interstate highways. Under Title 23, United States Code, Section 103, the BPR/FHWA designated four routes totaling 1,082 miles of Interstate highways in Alaska. Puerto Rico's three Interstate highways total 250 miles. Unlike the mileage in Hawaii, the mileage in Alaska and Puerto Rico is exempt from meeting Interstate design standards.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76454 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 7:52 pm to
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It's next to retardation that there's only two lanes that go from Satsuma to Covington.
No, it’s in Retardation: Livingston & Tangipahoa.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
1045 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:43 pm to
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you have to consider when I10 was built in the 50s/60s there is no way those designers could have ever fathomed the amount of traffic the interstate system would carry.


This is particularly true on this section of I-10 alignment. Texas and Florida were not the massive populations they are now. Every other car on I-10 is either TX or FL plates. Traffic would be no big deal without those. But all the commerce flows thru.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17746 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:56 pm to
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The problem is the local communities neglected building ‘highways’ in that region. There is no reason for anyone to have to get on an interstate week to week

In Fulshear (77441) they have built what used to be a two lane (one each direction) road, into what is now a four lane toll road, with four lanes of frontage road. This tollway is clearly to get people into and out of Houston for work. One chick on FB wondered why there wasn't an off ramp East bound from the West part of Fulshear to Spring Green, which is approximately 1.5 miles East of where she would enter.

She wanted it to skip two traffic lights. While Westpark Tollway is not an Interstate, she clearly doesn't understand the folly of using high density roads like a Tollway or I-10 as a daily "out and about" thing like Baton Rouge does. Not to mention the tens of millions of dollars for an off ramp, probably another toll plaza, etc. it would cost. She wants to shave 90 seconds off her commute to H-E-B. 1093 is the road of which she spoke.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30537 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:01 pm to
i've donated plasma and blood at most the places in between BR and Destin baw..found me out at the loves truck stop getting some love
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2623 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:09 pm to
I-10 in MS has 44 miles of continuous 6 lanes, which is great, but I doubt it will ever be 6 lanes from state line to state line. The last remaining 13 miles of 4 lanes in the west only has the Stennis exit. And the 20 miles of 4 lanes to the east goes over the Pascagoula River. They'll never have the funds to widen that bridge to 6 lanes.
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