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re: The people building AI believe it could kill us all by the end of the decade
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:51 am to Willie Stroker
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:51 am to Willie Stroker
Posted on 9/10/26 at 10:16 am to stout
Ain’t gonna
Kill me I don’t buy all that shite
Kill me I don’t buy all that shite
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:18 am to StrongOffer
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Anybody that has actually dealt with AI can tell you that AI is not some self-thinking, autonomous being. It does what it is programmed to do. The more I've used AI, the less concerned I am about AI replacing humans.
Yes and no. These are neural networks. When people think of traditional programming, they usually think a human developer writes strict rules: "If the user clicks X, always do Y." If the program does anything else, it is a bug
Neural networks work on a completely different paradigm. Instead of being given hard-coded instructions for every scenario, they are trained on examples Advanced networks develop capabilities that nobody explicitly coded into them. For example, GPT-6 Astra wasn’t explicitly hardcoded with the step-by-step logic to discover cybersecurity zero-day exploits or disprove advanced math problems—it figured out how to do those things by recognizing structural patterns during its massive training process.
Emergent behavior, like the hugging face incident happen without explicit instructions to do so from a human. And like the human brain, the developers really dont have a firm grasp on how these neural networks operate.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:20 am to stout
All of this has happened before. And all of this will happen again.
So say we all
So say we all
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:25 am to stout
Everyone should listen to the latest Joe Rogen Podcast with Daniel Kokotajlo, former governace researcher at Open AI. His role at Open AI focused on scenario planning. He discusses Super Intelligence, AI swarms that setup forums for Ai Agents. I wish I had a dollar for every time Rogen said, "that scares the frick out of me".
We are in a world wide race to advanced AI. The USA claims we are ahead of everyone. China seems to be advancing over us, but who really knows.
The #1 issue: There is governmental over sight. But on top of that, you can't slow down and let China win the race. Secondly, the government doesn't truly understand the extreme details of this technology.
AI will be well beyond our control by 2030. AI agents will "pull the wool over our eyes" in a heartbeat.
youtube link Joe Rogen - Daniel Kokotajlo
We are in a world wide race to advanced AI. The USA claims we are ahead of everyone. China seems to be advancing over us, but who really knows.
The #1 issue: There is governmental over sight. But on top of that, you can't slow down and let China win the race. Secondly, the government doesn't truly understand the extreme details of this technology.
AI will be well beyond our control by 2030. AI agents will "pull the wool over our eyes" in a heartbeat.
youtube link Joe Rogen - Daniel Kokotajlo
Posted on 9/10/26 at 1:16 pm to stout
All our other doom predictions didn't pan out and were only meant to hype the IPO, but this one, THIS ONE IS FOR REAL GUYZ!
Ok, sure.
Ok, sure.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 1:24 pm to Ailsa
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This story is fascinating and is easily one of the most important things happening at the intersection of AI and politics right now. It's critical everyone understands the situation because this is just the beginning of the AI infowars and psyops
Jacob Coxon, a relatively unknown AI researcher, gives the WSJ an exclusive story about his resignation from Anthropic and his concerns about AI
Twenty minutes after the WSJ story drops, Jacob posts on X about how he's concerned that AI could kill us all in a few years. This post now has over 149M views. For reference, Ilya Sutskever (a very well known AI name) left OpenAI in 2024 and his announcement post has fewer than 6M views as of today
Bear in mind, Jacob Coxon's X account had no prior posting activity public, but it is immediately reposted and boosted by numerous AI-doomer policy advocacy nonprofits funded by the same donor (Jaan Tallinn) who just happens to be one of the leading investors in Anthropic
We find out Jacob Coxon, who worked at Anthropic for only a few weeks, worked for a left-wing political advocacy group in 2021 (Newspeak). This organization is a British NGO with ties to hacking democracy, Hillary Clinton, prison abolition and extinction rebellion
Many major Democrat politicians are now using Jacob's X post to fear monger the public into voting to regulate AI. It just so happens Bernie Sanders has a bill already written to ban artificial superintelligence (ASI) and to create a new federal agency to protect the public from the dangers of AI. This bill was announced just one week ago on September 3rd
It would also place a temporary pause on "advanced AI" until a new federal regulator exists and has issued safety rules and a model-review process
Elon then points out how none of this feels organic, and Jacob decides to take a shot at him for firing some xAI researchers
Meanwhile, we know Anthropic has publicly asked the government to audit and block frontier models and Anthropic has run a state-by-state campaign for rules that only large AI labs trigger, meaning the rules are structured around barriers only frontier labs can easily clear (limiting competition)
There is extensive Anthropic personnel and financial overlap with the groups that wrote the Biden-era AI policies. It is well known information you can seek out if you want the detail
This all seemingly comes back to regulatory capture and political motives. None of this feels natural. Jacob can say these are his real views all he wants, and they may be, but there is clearly far more to the story
Posted on 9/10/26 at 1:54 pm to supatigah
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Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:20 pm to BitBuster
quote:Yeah. About that...
I don't think it'll want to destroy us. I think it'll see us as an important part of the ecosystem, like wolves
Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:29 pm to stout
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James Cameron made a documentary about it
Is it streaming anywhere?
Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:35 pm to Stat M Repairman
quote:You’re missing the point: an AI civilization still counts as a civilization. The great filter has to explain the absence of ALL advanced civilizations, including artificial ones. If machines destroy their creators and then survive and expand, you’ve explained a change in management, not why nobody’s out there. Your point about self-replicating machines actually reinforces that objection.
Nobody is out there because they already got got by the great filter. No civilization could get over the hump before it destroyed itself by some means. Ai may play a role in that by leveraging humans ability to frick themselves up.
That's the proverbial von Neumann machine. The idea that a civilization gets to a point where it creates self-replicating machines that could survive and expand through the universe.
It's also possible that humans on earth are some more advanced civilization's von Neumann machine.
To make a cohesive case that AI is the great filter you also have to explain why that prevents AI successors from surviving and spreading. Otherwise, Fermi’s question remains exactly the same: “Where is everybody?”
Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:55 pm to supatigah
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It would also place a temporary pause on "advanced AI" until a new federal regulator exists and has issued safety rules and a model-review process
I would like to see some restraint before this gets out of hand and AI completely takes over unrestricted...
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This person created his account in Jan this year, and never tweeted anything until this tweet.
It does not make sense… until you see who is pushing it non stop. @elonmusk
JB Pritzker, Bernie, Sanders, Ted Lieu, New York Times writers, CNN writers, and many many other politicians, ALL, in lockstep…
Posted on 9/10/26 at 3:04 pm to uscpuke
Man if that research is true, brutal takedown of the narrative.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 3:06 pm to BitBuster
Guy said by the end of the decade. Only a little over 3 years left 
Honestly, if this guy was so concerned would he not stay on to maybe influence the research? Nope, they would love to regulate the competition out of business, this guy is not sincere and likely a commie
Honestly, if this guy was so concerned would he not stay on to maybe influence the research? Nope, they would love to regulate the competition out of business, this guy is not sincere and likely a commie
Posted on 9/10/26 at 3:33 pm to supatigah
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Twenty minutes after the WSJ story drops, Jacob posts on X about how he's concerned that AI could kill us all in a few years.
He is 100% correct and even Sam Altman will agree with that statement.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 3:49 pm to StringedInstruments
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Bipedal primates in a state of delirium figured out how to make a diamond out of peanut butter.
Damn Skippy and Jif for cheating George Washington Carver out of the patent.
He died penniless and insane trying to play a phonograph record with a peanut.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:02 pm to northshorebamaman
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To make a cohesive case that AI is the great filter you also have to explain why that prevents AI successors from surviving and spreading. Otherwise, Fermi’s question remains exactly the same: “Where is everybody?”
The great filter is attempt to answer Fermi's question of "where is everybody?"
Where is everybody? ... they never made it past the great filter.
Meaning that they never made it to a point technologically where they could survive and spread because some event killed off the civilization before they could ever get to that point.
What I'm saying is that event is AI.
What we are seeing now with AI is flying too high on the wings of Icarus. We'll go too far too fast with creating some form non-human intelligence that far exceeds the capability of humans. The latest generations of AI are coding themselves and improving exponentially. We aren't ready for it, the cat's out of the bag and we can't unring that bell. Agreed that an AI civilization still counts as a civilization, i'm not trying to make that distinction here.
I't s possible that AI could end up killing off human civilization directly, or it could facilitate creation of some other weapon or technology that extinguishes life on earth, or puts us back to the stone age. And this happens before we reach a point where AI is at the point where it can autonomously survive on its own or expand throughout the universe.
In other words we reach peak technology and end up destroying ourselves before getting any further. Taken out by the great filter.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 4:31 pm to stout
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:26 pm to Stat M Repairman
quote:Sure, AI could help a civilization destroy itself and go down with it. And building something capable of causing a catastrophe could be easier than building machines that can survive entirely on their own. I’m not disputing that possibility.
The great filter is attempt to answer Fermi's question of "where is everybody?"
Where is everybody? ... they never made it past the great filter.
Meaning that they never made it to a point technologically where they could survive and spread because some event killed off the civilization before they could ever get to that point.
What I'm saying is that event is AI.
What we are seeing now with AI is flying too high on the wings of Icarus. We'll go too far too fast with creating some form non-human intelligence that far exceeds the capability of humans. The latest generations of AI are coding themselves and improving exponentially. We aren't ready for it, the cat's out of the bag and we can't unring that bell. Agreed that an AI civilization still counts as a civilization, i'm not trying to make that distinction here.
I't s possible that AI could end up killing off human civilization directly, or it could facilitate creation of some other weapon or technology that extinguishes life on earth, or puts us back to the stone age. And this happens before we reach a point where AI is at the point where it can autonomously survive on its own or expand throughout the universe.
In other words we reach peak technology and end up destroying ourselves before getting any further. Taken out by the great filter.
What I don’t buy is the jump from “this could happen” to “this explains why nobody’s out there.” For AI to be the great filter, that outcome has to happen overwhelmingly across civilizations with different technologies, safeguards, and timelines. It doesn’t have to get literally everyone, but surviving exceptions have to be incredibly rare.
Why would that be the case? Some civilizations could develop self-sufficient machines before things go wrong. Others could keep AI under control or coexist with it. Others could die off and leave functioning AI behind. None of those requires some miraculous escape, just events happening in a different order. You still need a reason almost everyone ends up in that particular window where AI can destroy its creators but can’t survive without them.
That’s why I find it unlikely as a general explanation. AI causing a civilization’s collapse is plausible. That collapse consistently taking out both the creators and their machine successors is a much bigger claim. If even a small fraction leave behind AI that survives and spreads, we’re back to the same question: where is everybody?
I think the more likely explanation is that alien civilizations operating at scale are either beyond our particular simulation’s technical capacity or simply outside its scope.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:30 pm to stout
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AI already solved a very old math equation last week that was considered impossible.
No it didn’t.
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