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The 'Overparenting' Crisis In School And At Home

Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:10 pm
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NPR

Have you ever paid your kid for good grades? Have you driven to school to drop off a forgotten assignment? Have you done a college student's laundry? What about coming along to Junior's first job interview?

These examples are drawn from two bestselling books — How to Raise an Adult by Julie Lythcott-Haims and The Gift of Failure by Jessica Lahey.

The books make strikingly similar claims about today's youth:

Kids are anxious, afraid and risk-averse because parents are more focused on keeping their children safe, content and happy in the moment than on parenting for competence. Furthermore, we as a society [are] so obsessed with learning as a product — grades, scores and other evidence of academic and athletic success — that we have sacrificed learning in favor of these false idols.

We parents are overprotecting, overdirecting and doing a lot of hand-holding, ostensibly in furtherance of kids' safety — physical, emotional — and security — emotional, academic, reputational, professional, financial. But also in furtherance of our own ego. Our kid becomes chronologically adult but still expects us to tell them what to do and how to do it

Teachers and administrators complain about parents, but we helped create this frenzy ... Teachers have come to accept that parents interfere and co-opt school projects and have begun to take that for granted when grading.

I'm all for love between parent and child from now until forever. What I'm concerned about is when coddling means a kid doesn't acquire the skills they're going to need out in the real world.



We got a lot of clown arse parents out there who are contributing each day to the increasing number of 25 year olds who don't know how to independently function in society.

Too many parents focused on what they consider the fun (and easy) parts of parenting, with no concern for actually preparing their child for adulthood. They never actually teach their kids anything of value. Concepts like discipline and responsibility are boring and take work. Never mind if little Jimmy can't budget a $20 bill or wash his own clothes because he's spent the past 12 years of his life only playing vidya games and improving his swing. Then he graduates with a degree in puppetry and $100k in student loans and demands free tuition and student loan forgiveness.

Your boy Pecker says these things because he cares, and because he wants to see each and every young person reach their full potential. I also have some thoughts on childhood obesity but that's for another time.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85479 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

What about coming along to Junior's first job interview?


As a parent, this sounds exciting
Posted by Cump11b
Member since Sep 2018
2026 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:13 pm to
This is a serious issue. I doubt it will change though.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:13 pm to
How many kids you got your boy Pecker?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:14 pm to
:you sho is mad:
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:14 pm to
Oh great, another thread where someone with zero kids is going to lecture others on how to raise their children








Just wanted to get that out of the way.. the article makes a few good points though.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:18 pm to
These threads are always a welcomed juxtaposition to those on The Rant who lament people bringing younger children to sporting events.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:18 pm to
I’ll go ahead and post my unpopular parenting beliefs:

1. Social media isn’t just ruining kids, it has ruined a few older parents as well.. the ‘take my ball and go home’ generation that everyone currently bitches about was created by the same age group that can’t stand them

2. All you guys that are raising their daughters like little ‘princesses’ are ruining them.. in a few years, when they are selfish spoiled little brats, and can’t find themselves a stable relationship because they are too self centered and too arrogant to become good wives, you’ll only have yourselves to blame


Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2968 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:18 pm to
How do you handle these issues with your kids Peck?

Do you just yell at your kids while they drip down the crack of your girlfriends arse?
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:19 pm to
I've seen both sides. One group thinks you can protect your kid from every little thing, the other couldn't give a shite less.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59320 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:19 pm to
I 100% will teach my child to be responsible, how to budget money, and how to do the basics in life (wash your clothes, vacuum, etc).

You can be a fun parent while still doing those things.

My plan is to start age-appropriate chores at a young age and then as he gets older introduce an allowance somehow to learn budgeting.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

How to Raise an Adult by Julie Lythcott-Haims


I doubt she has a clue

quote:

Two years later I published Real American: A Memoir, a critically-acclaimed and award-winning memoir which examines racism through my experience as a Black and biracial person. In it, I detail my personal battle with the low self-esteem that American racism routinely inflicts on people of color, and depict how microaggressions in addition to blunt-force insults can puncture a person’s inner life with a thousand sharp cuts. Real American expresses also, through my path to self-acceptance, the healing power of community in overcoming the hurtful isolation of being incessantly considered “the other.”


This is the person that is going to tell you how to raise an adult. You get an L here, Pecker.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33882 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:20 pm to
Pecker your obsession with parenting is concerning given your aversion to making children
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:23 pm to
Honestly, as a parent of a VERY active 4 year old boy, you are completely correct


It’s a tough balance. I want him to be curious and adventurous, but at the same time, it is my job to protect him while at the same time, not keeping him ‘bottled up’..
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86481 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:25 pm to
I raised my kids like it is 1976 when I was a kid . Free Range baby, not much tv, mandatory music, make your point and defend your argument, always question authority, respect authority that has proven its integrity, don’t buy any organized or “ expert” bs, go against the herd, all that. And focus on character and conscientiousness and not specific results. It drove all the busybodies insane.

Mine are now 20,17 and 15 . Only one of them currently hates my guts and hopes I die painfully so it worked out well. What “ theoretical “ parents don’t understand that real parents do is that their individual temperament will define their lives. You really can’t and shouldn’t take credit for their success or failure ( provided you raised them in a good home ) as much as you just provide a framework for living. That framework should promote Self-analysis , perseverance, knowledge of the world, how human psychology works, the pursuit of meaning and truth - just an understanding of what they will face. Because life WILL kick their arse even if you stupidly think you can insulate them from reality.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

How do you handle these issues with your kids Peck?

Do you just yell at your kids while they drip down the crack of your girlfriends arse?

I’m actually planning to mentor a kid this summer. An inner-city youf. I’ll post some progress updates
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112518 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Pecker
You overparent parents on here


Think about that
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35651 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:29 pm to
I would say that a exponentially larger problem is the under parenting in america
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:29 pm to
Jordan Peterson makes many good points in regards to overbearing parents.

Basically, he says the purpose of parenting is grooming your child to be a functional person in society and responsible while being tough enough to not have people walk all over your child.

With the helicopter parenting nowadays, children are finding themselves incapable to function properly throughout their daily activities.
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